Dear Martin and FreeSurfer experts,

Thanks for your response.

I have just finished re-running some subjects from scratch in 5.3 and it 
appears that the edits from brain.finalsurfs.manedit.mgz are not being applied 
to the longitudinal subject directories.

Just to clarify, I have been doing ALL of the pial surface edits in the 
brain.finalsurfs.manedit.mgz, not just the pial surface edits that have 
extended into the cerebellum. The rationale for doing this is mainly 
continuity, as the previous research assistant made all pial surface edits in 
this way because of a response she had received from the FS forum saying that 
there shouldn't be any problem with performing all the pial surface edits in 
the brain.finalsurfs.manedit.mgz file.

Is there something in the FreeSurfer longitudinal processing code that would 
treat edits near the cerebellum of the brain.finalsurfs.manedit.mgz file 
differently from those made in other parts of the brain (e.g. 
lateralorbitofrontal, dura, etc.,)?

Can you think of anything else that would be causing this or anything that I 
could try to get the longitudinal processing stream to incorporate the edits 
from the brain.finalsurfs.manedit.mgz file?

Thanks for your help!

Doug Merkitch
Neurological Sciences
Rush University Medical Center
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From: Martin Reuter 
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Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] brain.finalsurfs.manedit.mgz file edits & 
longitudinal processing
Date: May 2, 2014 4:20:17 PM CDT
To: Freesurfer support list 
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Hi Doug,

so you
1. edited the cross sectionals and surfaces look fine (make sure you edit the 
brain.finalsurfs.manedit.mgz file, which you create as a copy of the 
brain.finalsurfs.mgz)
2. checked/edited the base and surfaces look fine too
3. ran the longitudinal from scratch (w/o any edits)

and then in the long, the surface looks not good?

Edits should automatically be copied from cross->long (if the manedit file 
exist). Surfaces are taken from the base to initialize longitudinal processing. 
That is why both step1 and step2 above are important. Step3 is a good idea to 
make sure that the longs are not polluted by some earlier edits. For example 
edits from cross are only copied over if the long has no manedit file, else 
only the edits in the long will be used. (I think this also answers some of the 
questions in the archive mail 1 you cite below, the archive mail 2 is a 
question about cross sectional processing, but I think there the problem is 
that brainmask.finalsurfs.mgz was edited directly, not the manedit file, so 
edits probably get overwritten).

I also have the feeling that we fixed something about the editing in 
longitudinal processing after 5.1, but cannot find it documented on the wiki 
(so not sure). You may want to try to run this with 5.3 if it does not work 
with 5.1

Best, Martin


On 05/02/2014 10:45 AM, Douglas Merkitch wrote:
Dear Freesurfer experts,

I have a question regarding longitudinal edits. Specifically the 
brain.finalsurfs.manedit.mgz file and the longitudinal processing stream in 
Freesufer 5.1 on a Mac (freesurfer-i686-apple-darwin9.8.0-stable5-20110525).

The problem that I am having is that the edits saved in the 
brain.finalsurfs.manedit.mgz file do not carry over when processing 
longitudinally.

Previous posts have addressed this topic, but have not (to my knowledge) solved 
the issue. Please see the threads from the Freesurfer archive below for a brief 
context:

1. http://www.mail-archive.com/freesurfer%40nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/msg27695.html

2. http://www.mail-archive.com/freesurfer%40nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/msg33471.html

Please let me know if more information is needed to understand the issue.

Any insight/ideas regarding this issue would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks,

Doug

Doug Merkitch
Neurological Sciences
Rush University Medical Center
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