Hi Elijah,

Just create a link 
ln -s pathtofsaverage ./

Usually this is done during recon-all


Sent via my smartphone, please excuse brevity.

-------- Original message --------
From: Elijah Mak <[email protected]> 
Date:06/04/2014  7:17 AM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: Martin Reuter <[email protected]>,[email protected] 
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] v.5.3 Longitudinal Analysis on v.5.0 processed scans 

Hi Martin,

We corresponded about the longitudinal pipeline earlier. Your help has
been much appreciated. I am now at the stage where I am ready to
perform QDEC analyses using the 2-stage method.

In my Subject DIR, I have all the longs (Tp1 and 2) and their
corresponding bases. However, when i run the following command

long_mris_slopes --qdec ./qdec/long.qdec.table.dat --meas thickness
--hemi lh --do-avg --do-rate --do-pc1 --do-spc --do-stack --do-label
--time years --qcache fsaverage --sd $SUBJECTS_DIR


It says that fsaverage is missing.

Can I simply copy the fsverage folder from the default Freesurfer
"subjects" folder?

Many thanks!
Best Regards,
Elijah

On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 10:15 PM, Martin Reuter
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Elijah,
>
>
> On 01/15/2014 04:10 PM, Elijah Mak wrote:
>
> Hi Martin,
>
> Thank you for your help.
>
> By re-processing, do you mean running recon-alls all over again?
>
>
> Yes. 5.0 is old and it is better to run everything with 5.3 from beginning
> to end. If you have a lot of data or a lot of edits, you can try running
> -base and -long in 5.3 and keep the independent (cross sectional) stuff in
> 5.0, but I don't recommend mixing versions.
>
>
>
> Could you elaborate on the advantage of creating a new subjectsdir and
> copying over the orig dirs for each subject?
>
> This way you keep a backup copy of your old 5.0 processed data (to lookup
> edits etc). If you have a script that calls recon-all with the -i flag for
> inputs, you don't need to copy the mri/orig dirs (it will grab the data from
> the dicoms again). Copying the orig dirs and dropping -i will skip that
> step.
>
>
> On a related note, would it be better to run the full recon-all pipeline for
> each subject? I have been running batches of subjects at each stage (i.e.
> autorecon1, autorecon2, and finally autorecon3).
>
> Yes, full pipeline (-all) on all subjects is what I usually do. You can run
> individual steps and check intermediate results if you like, but I usually
> run everything and check everything at the end.
>
> Best, Martin
>
>
>
> Thank you again.
>
> Best Wishes,
> Elijah
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 9:02 PM, Martin Reuter <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Elijah,
>>
>> if you have minimal edits, I'd recommend to reprocess the data from
>> scratch with 5.3 (that is supposed to be the same as using the -clean flag
>> when rerunning 5.3 on top of the old 5.0 data). But I'd recommend to create
>> a new subjectsdir, copy over the subjedid/mri/orig dirs for each subject and
>> rerun from scratch with 5.3 the independent, base and long runs.
>>
>> Best, Martin
>>
>>
>>
>> On 01/13/2014 06:18 PM, Elijah Mak wrote:
>>
>> Greetings Freesurfer Community,
>>
>> I am running a longitudinal study using Freesurfer v.5.3 to compare rate
>> of cortical thinning between 2 groups of subjects. I hope I can seek some
>> expert advice on the following situation:
>>
>> All data (both the baseline and follow-up) has been processed
>> independently using recon-all. This has been done on Freesurfer 5.0.
>>
>> Since then, I have upgraded to Freesurfer v5.3 to utilize the linear mixed
>> effect capability.
>>
>> For the construction of base and longs, I understand that it is important
>> to add -clean flag to my recon-all strings to overwrite brainmask.mgz etc.
>> When must this be done?
>>
>> I am still new to Freesurer, and I'd greatly appreciate any advice
>> regarding workflow.
>>
>> Many Thanks,
>>
>> Elijah
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Elijah Mak, B.A.
>>
>> Doctoral Candidate | Psychiatry
>>
>> University of Cambridge | Department of Psychiatry
>>
>> Trinity College, Cambridge, CB2 1TQ
>>
>>
>>
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> --
>
> Elijah Mak, B.A.
>
> Doctoral Candidate | Psychiatry
>
> University of Cambridge | Department of Psychiatry
>
> Trinity College, Cambridge, CB2 1TQ
>
>
>
> --
> Martin Reuter, Ph.D.
> Assistant in Neuroscience - Massachusetts General Hospital
> Instructor in Neurology   - Harvard Medical School
> MGH / HMS / MIT
>
> A.A.Martinos Center for Biomedical Imaging
> 149 Thirteenth Street, Suite 2301
> Charlestown, MA 02129
>
> Phone: +1-617-724-5652
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-- 
Elijah Mak, Gates Scholar

PhD Candidate | Psychiatry

University of Cambridge | Department of Psychiatry

Trinity College, Cambridge, CB2 1TQ


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