what do you mean that it did not seem to work?

On 03/30/2017 11:25 AM, Clara Kühn wrote:
> Thank you! I completely didn't see that. It worked.
>
> I was wondering how to proceed next. The tutorial ends with running the 
> glmfit command. I've tried correcting for multiple comparisons with Monte 
> Carlo but that doesn't seem to work. How can I interpret the files that are 
> the output from the repeated measures ANOVA?
>
> Cheers Clara
>
> ----- Ursprüngliche Mail -----
> Von: "Douglas N Greve" <gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
> An: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 29. März 2017 18:15:57
> Betreff: Re: [Freesurfer] glmfit mismatch between X and C with same no of 
> columns
>
> Since there are 40 subjects, you would only have 40+1 columns, not 80+1
>
>
> On 03/29/2017 03:42 AM, Clara Kühn wrote:
>> Hi Doug,
>>
>> I've also attached the fsgd file for you. Yes, I have 40 subjects and a 
>> contrast column. I adapted this from this tutorial: 
>> https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/RepeatedMeasuresAnova where the 
>> example has 3 time points and therefore 2 contrast columns. Since I want to 
>> look at only 2 I only have one contrast column which is also my 81st column 
>> in the contrast matrix.
>>
>> Did I adapt it in a wrong way for my 2 timepoints?
>> Cheers
>> Clara
>>
>> ----- Ursprüngliche Mail -----
>> Von: "Douglas N Greve" <gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>> An: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 28. März 2017 18:37:58
>> Betreff: Re: [Freesurfer] glmfit mismatch between X and C with same no of 
>> columns
>>
>> I'm not sure what's in  your FSGD file, but you design matrix has 41
>> columns and your contrast matrix has 80. I'm guessing that  you have 40
>> subjects and that you created the contrast matrix based on DODS and not
>> DOSS (see the web page on the rmanova about creating contrasts)
>>
>>
>> On 03/28/2017 03:50 AM, Clara Kühn wrote:
>>> Sorry, I had a typo in the fsgd file. This is the correct command line and 
>>> terminal output:
>>>
>>> mri_glmfit --glmdir $SUBJECTS_DIR/qdec/rmanova/ --y 
>>> $SUBJECTS_DIR/81kids_template/GLMprep/40kids-lh.thickness-rmanova.sm10.mgh 
>>> --fsgd $SUBJECTS_DIR/qdec/rmanova/2014.03.27-40kids-rmanova.fsgd doss --C 
>>> $SUBJECTS_DIR/qdec/rmanova/C-pre-vs-post.mtx
>>>
>>>
>>> gdfReadHeader: reading 
>>> /data/p_npsy001_neurotrain/kids_data/sem_con-tp1and2//qdec/rmanova/2014.03.27-40kids-rmanova.fsgd
>>> INFO: DeMeanFlag keyword not found, DeMeaning will NOT be done.
>>> Continuous Variable Means (all subjects)
>>> 0 pre-vs-post 0 1
>>> Class Means of each Continuous Variable
>>> 1 Subject1   0.0000
>>> 2 Subject2   0.0000
>>> 3 Subject3   0.0000
>>> 4 Subject4   0.0000
>>> 5 Subject5   0.0000
>>> 6 Subject6   0.0000
>>> 7 Subject7   0.0000
>>> 8 Subject8   0.0000
>>> 9 Subject9   0.0000
>>> 10 Subject10   0.0000
>>> 11 Subject11   0.0000
>>> 12 Subject12   0.0000
>>> 13 Subject13   0.0000
>>> 14 Subject14   0.0000
>>> 15 Subject15   0.0000
>>> 16 Subject16   0.0000
>>> 17 Subject17   0.0000
>>> 18 Subject18   0.0000
>>> 19 Subject19   0.0000
>>> 20 Subject20   0.0000
>>> 21 Subject21   0.0000
>>> 22 Subject22   0.0000
>>> 23 Subject23   0.0000
>>> 24 Subject24   0.0000
>>> 25 Subject25   0.0000
>>> 26 Subject26   0.0000
>>> 27 Subject27   0.0000
>>> 28 Subject28   0.0000
>>> 29 Subject29   0.0000
>>> 30 Subject30   0.0000
>>> 31 Subject31   0.0000
>>> 32 Subject32   0.0000
>>> 33 Subject33   0.0000
>>> 34 Subject34   0.0000
>>> 35 Subject35   0.0000
>>> 36 Subject36   0.0000
>>> 37 Subject37   0.0000
>>> 38 Subject38   0.0000
>>> 39 Subject39   0.0000
>>> 40 Subject40   0.0000
>>> INFO: gd2mtx_method is doss
>>>
>>> $Id: mri_glmfit.c,v 1.196.2.8 2012/11/01 18:51:41 greve Exp $
>>> cwd /home/raid2/ckuehn
>>> cmdline mri_glmfit --glmdir 
>>> /data/p_npsy001_neurotrain/kids_data/sem_con-tp1and2//qdec/rmanova/ --y 
>>> /data/p_npsy001_neurotrain/kids_data/sem_con-tp1and2//81kids_template/GLMprep/40kids-lh.thickness-rmanova.sm10.mgh
>>>  --fsgd 
>>> /data/p_npsy001_neurotrain/kids_data/sem_con-tp1and2//qdec/rmanova/2014.03.27-40kids-rmanova.fsgd
>>>  doss --C 
>>> /data/p_npsy001_neurotrain/kids_data/sem_con-tp1and2//qdec/rmanova/C-pre-vs-post.mtx
>>> sysname  Linux
>>> hostname parana
>>> machine  x86_64
>>> user     ckuehn
>>> FixVertexAreaFlag = 1
>>> UseMaskWithSmoothing     1
>>> OneSampleGroupMean 0
>>> y    
>>> /data/p_npsy001_neurotrain/kids_data/sem_con-tp1and2/81kids_template/GLMprep/40kids-lh.thickness-rmanova.sm10.mgh
>>> logyflag 0
>>> usedti  0
>>> FSGD 
>>> /data/p_npsy001_neurotrain/kids_data/sem_con-tp1and2//qdec/rmanova/2014.03.27-40kids-rmanova.fsgd
>>> glmdir /data/p_npsy001_neurotrain/kids_data/sem_con-tp1and2//qdec/rmanova/
>>> IllCondOK 0
>>> ReScaleX 1
>>> DoFFx 0
>>> Creating output directory 
>>> /data/p_npsy001_neurotrain/kids_data/sem_con-tp1and2//qdec/rmanova/
>>> Loading y from 
>>> /data/p_npsy001_neurotrain/kids_data/sem_con-tp1and2/81kids_template/GLMprep/40kids-lh.thickness-rmanova.sm10.mgh
>>> INFO: gd2mtx_method is doss
>>> Saving design matrix to 
>>> /data/p_npsy001_neurotrain/kids_data/sem_con-tp1and2//qdec/rmanova//Xg.dat
>>> Normalized matrix condition is 1
>>> Matrix condition is 40
>>> Pruning voxels by thr: 0.000000
>>> Found 97361 voxels in mask
>>> Saving mask to 
>>> /data/p_npsy001_neurotrain/kids_data/sem_con-tp1and2//qdec/rmanova//mask.mgh
>>> search space = 97361.000000
>>> ERROR: dimension mismatch between X and contrast 
>>> /data/p_npsy001_neurotrain/kids_data/sem_con-tp1and2//qdec/rmanova/C-pre-vs-post.mtx
>>>        X has 41 cols, C has 81 cols
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Ursprüngliche Mail -----
>>> Von: "Douglas N Greve" <gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>>> An: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>>> Gesendet: Montag, 27. März 2017 19:49:04
>>> Betreff: Re: [Freesurfer] glmfit mismatch between X and C with same no of 
>>> columns
>>>
>>> Need command line and terminal output
>>>
>>>
>>> On 03/27/2017 09:08 AM, Clara Kühn wrote:
>>>> Dear Freesurfer experts,
>>>>
>>>> I'm trying to run a repeated measures anova as described here: 
>>>> https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/RepeatedMeasuresAnova
>>>>
>>>> I have 40 subjects with 2 time points each, so it's quite a large matrix.
>>>> When running the mri_glmfit command I get the following error:
>>>>
>>>> ERROR: dimension mismatch between X and contrast 
>>>> /data/p_npsy001_neurotrain/kids_data/sem_con-tp1and2//qdec/rmanova/C-pre-vs-post.mtx
>>>>        X has 41 cols, C has 81 cols
>>>>
>>>> I'm not sure what to do as the matrix and the contrast (see attachments) 
>>>> actually have the same amount of columns...
>>>>
>>>> Any help would be much appreciated, thank you!
>>>> Clara
>>>>
>>>>
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