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Hi Stefano,

How are you using the colortable? Are you just passing it as a flag to
mri_aparc2aseg?

As far as I know (and I am NOT very knowledgeable, so I could be wrong),
the volumetric file (Yeo_17Net.mgz) does not contain the color information.
So when I said you should use the colortable, I meant you should use it
with the viewer. I am not sure about tkmedit, but for freeview, you can
load your volume and then also load your own colortable.

Regards,
Thomas

On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 11:13 PM <std...@virgilio.it> wrote:

> The problem persists.
>
> We are sure that the command lines which I'm using are corrected?
>
> mri_surf2surf --srcsubject fsaverage5 --trgsubject subj --hemi rh
> --sval-annot
> /Applications/freesurfer/1000subjects_reference/Yeo_JNeurophysiol11_SplitLabels/fsaverage5/label/rh.Yeo2011_17Networks_N1000.annot
> --tval subj/label/rh.Yeo2011_17Networks_N1000
>
> mri_surf2surf --srcsubject fsaverage5 --trgsubject ADNI001_AD --hemi lh
> --sval-annot
> /Applications/freesurfer/1000subjects_reference/Yeo_JNeurophysiol11_SplitLabels/fsaverage5/label/lh.Yeo2011_17Networks_N1000.annot
> --tval subj/label/lh.Yeo2011_17Networks_N1000
>
> mri_aparc2aseg --s subj --o subj/mri/Yeo_17Net.mgz --annot
> Yeo2011_17Networks_N1000 --annot-table
> /Applications/freesurfer/1000subjects_reference/Yeo_JNeurophysiol11_SplitLabels/MNI152/Yeo2011_17network_SplitLabels_LUT_rh2058.txt
>
>
> Il 27 marzo 2019 alle 15.40 Aihuiping Xue <xueaihuip...@gmail.com> ha
> scritto:
>
> Hi Stefano,
>
> I created a lookup table for your case. You can load your .mgz file and
> try this lookup table in freeview.
>
> This is a temporary solution. We will modify the annot files and provide
> another version of lookup table. But that will take some time. I hope this
> lookup table can solve your problem for now.
>
> Best Regards,
> XUE Aihuiping
>
> < std...@virgilio.it> 于2019年3月27日周三 下午10:26写道:
>
> Yes the left hemisphere is fine.
>
> The error occurs again. The labels for posterior DMN and anterior DMN
> are the same and numbered like 1016 and 2016, despite I have modified the
> txt.
>
> Thanks
>
> Stefano
>
> Il 27 marzo 2019 alle 13.09 Thomas Yeo < ytho...@csail.mit.edu> ha
> scritto:
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>
> Hi Stefano,
>
> Sorry. Can you confirm left hemisphere is ok?
>
> I think in this version of the annot file, the right hemisphere regions
> will start off as 2058, rather than 2001. So instead of numbering from 2001
> to 2057, it should be from 2058 to 2114.
>
> Sorry about that. There are some intricacies between the annot format and
> mri_aparc2aseg that we were not aware of. We are trying to fix the issue
> now, but not so soon.
>
> Regards,
> Thomas
>
> On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 6:14 PM < std...@virgilio.it> wrote:
>
> I have renumbered and run:
>
> mri_aparc2aseg --s subj --o subj/mri/Yeo_17Net.mgz --annot
> Yeo2011_17Networks_N1000 --annot-table Yeo2011_17Networks_renumbered.txt
> When I open the Yeo_17Net.mgz in freeview, the PCC portion of the DMN
> "2016 is visualized but labeled as rh_parahippocampal.
>
> What's happened?
>
> Thanks
>
> Best regards,
>
> Stefano
>
> Il 26 marzo 2019 alle 13.05 Thomas Yeo < ytho...@csail.mit.edu> ha
> scritto:
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>
> Renumber for visualization purpose.
>
> Do you mean how to re-number in the colortable? Just open the colortable
> in a text editing software and edit.
>
> Thanks,
> Thomas
>
> On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 6:44 PM < std...@virgilio.it> wrote:
>
> Thanks.
>
> Should I renumber for visualization purpose or for fs-fast?
>
> How can I do it?
>
>
> Il 26 marzo 2019 alle 4.01 Thomas Yeo < ytho...@csail.mit.edu> ha
> scritto:
>
> Hi Stefano,
>
> Can I confirm that in Yeo_17Net.mgz, the left hemisphere parcels are 1001,
> 1002 to 1057? And the right hemisphere parcels are 2001, 2002, to 2057?
>
> If so, you will just need the right colortable to view the Yeo_17Net.mgz.
> We are currently generating a new colortable that should work for you. This
> might take a while.
>
> If you are in a hurry, you can download the colortable here (
> https://github.com/ThomasYeoLab/CBIG/blob/master/stable_projects/brain_parcellation/Yeo2011_fcMRI_clustering/1000subjects_reference/Yeo_JNeurophysiol11_SplitLabels/MNI152/17Networks_ColorLUT_freeview.txt),
> but as you can see the range of values are not in the 1000-2000 range. So
> what you need to do is for the left hemisphere structures, you need to
> renumber them from 1 to 57 to 1001 to 1057. For the right hemisphere
> structures, you need to renumber them from 58 to 114 to 2001 to 2057.
>
> Regards,
> Thomas
>
> On Sun, Mar 24, 2019 at 12:18 AM < std...@virgilio.it> wrote:
>
> Hi, my concern is the mri_aparc2aseg command line.
>
> In summary, I have done:
>
> mri_surf2surf --srcsubject fsaverage5 --trgsubject subj --hemi rh
> --sval-annot
> /Applications/freesurfer/1000subjects_reference/Yeo_JNeurophysiol11_SplitLabels/fsaverage5/label/rh.Yeo2011_17Networks_N1000.annot
> --tval $SUBJECTS_DIR/subj/label/rh.Yeo2011_17Networks_N1000
> mri_surf2surf --srcsubject fsaverage5 --trgsubject ADNI001_AD --hemi lh
> --sval-annot
> /Applications/freesurfer/1000subjects_reference/Yeo_JNeurophysiol11_SplitLabels/fsaverage5/label/lh.Yeo2011_17Networks_N1000.annot
> --tval $SUBJECTS_DIR/subj/label/lh.Yeo2011_17Networks_N1000
>
>
>
> mri_aparc2aseg --s subj --o subj/mri/Yeo_17Net.mgz --annot
> Yeo2011_17Networks_N1000 --annot-table
> /Applications/freesurfer/1000subjects_reference/Yeo_JNeurophysiol11_SplitLabels/fsaverage5/label/rh.Yeo2011_7Networks_N1000.split_components.annot
> tkmeditfv subj orig.mgz -ov subj/mri/Yeo_17Net.mgz
>
> The output is correct by the color label is those of aparc.
>
> Probably the error is the match between the annotations and annot-table.
>
> Could you check the command lines, please?
>
> Thanks
>
> Stefano
>
>
>
> Il 10 marzo 2019 alle 21.15 "Greve, Douglas N.,Ph.D." <
> dgr...@mgh.harvard.edu> ha scritto:
>
> Specify -seg Yeo_17Net.mgz (ie, don't include the full path). I don't know
> what is in that txt file. You can verify the segids by just bringing up the
> segmentation in freeview and clicking on a voxel. If you load the
> segmentation with that color table and everything looks ok, then the color
> table  is ok.
>
> On 3/10/19 4:05 PM, std...@virgilio.it wrote:
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> I will use freeview.
>
> Have you any suggestion on the use of fcseed-config option?
>
> Are you agree with the command line listed below?
>
> fcseed-config -segid ... -seg $SUBJECTS_DIR/subj/mri/Yeo_17Net.mgz -fsd
> rest -mean -cfg lh.SEED.config -overwrite
>
> My concerns are on -segids. Are the ids included in the file
> 1000subjects_reference/Yeo_JNeurophysiol11_SplitLabels/MNI152/17Networks_ColorLUT_freeview.txt?
>
> How can I select a specific seed (id) to be used in -segids?
>
> Thanks
>
> Stefano
>
>
> Il 10 marzo 2019 alle 17.17 Bruce Fischl <fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
> <fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> ha scritto:
>
> Hi Stefano
>
> is there a reason you are using tkmedit and not freeview? We deprecated
> tkmedit a long time ago now
>
> cheers
> Bruce
> On Sun, 10 Mar 2019, std...@virgilio.it wrote:
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> Thanks.
>
> My error is in tkmedit
>
> tkmeditfv subj orig.mgz -ov subj/mri/Yeo_17Net.mgz
>
> Il 9 marzo 2019 alle 11.09 Thomas Yeo <ytho...@csail.mit.edu>
> <ytho...@csail.mit.edu> ha scritto:
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> Just to clarify, rh.Yeo2011_17Networks_N1000.annot looks fine, but
> Yeo_17Net.mgz is empty?
> Your tkmedit command seems to assume Yeo_17Net.mgz is in
> /Applications/freesurfer/subjects/subject_prova/. But shouldn't the output
> be in the mri folder?
>
> On Sat, Mar 9, 2019 at 5:47 PM < std...@virgilio.it> wrote:
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> I have run:
>
> mri_surf2surf --srcsubject fsaverage5 --trgsubject subj--hemi rh
> --sval-annot/Applications/freesurfer/1000subjects_reference/Yeo_JNeurophysiol11_SplitLabels/fsaverage5/label/rh.Yeo20
> 11_17Networks_N1000.annot --tval
> $SUBJECTS_DIR/subj/label/rh.Yeo2011_17Networks_N1000
>
> to check the output
>
> tksurfer subj rh inflated -annot
> $SUBJECTS_DIR/subj/label/rh.Yeo2011_17Networks_N1000.annot
>
> My concern is here:
>
> mri_aparc2aseg --s subj --o subj/mri/Yeo_17Net.mgz --annot
> Yeo2011_17Networks_N1000
>
> --annot-table/Applications/freesurfer/1000subjects_reference/Yeo_JNeurophysiol11_SplitLabels/MNI152/17Networks_ColorLU
> T_freeview.txt --sval-annot
> yeoData_fsaverage5/rh.Yeo2011_17Networks_N1000.split_components.annot
>
> tkmeditfv fsaverage orig.mgz -ov
> /Applications/freesurfer/subjects/subject_prova/Yeo_17Net.mgz
>
> Yeo_17Net.mgz is empty.
>
> Stefano
>
> Il 7 marzo 2019 alle 23.57 "Greve, Douglas N.,Ph.D."
> <dgr...@mgh.harvard.edu> <dgr...@mgh.harvard.edu> ha scritto:
>
> You have to convert the annotation to a volume using mri_aparc2aseg
> (look at recon-all.log for an example, but note that you'll need to
> specify the output so that it does not overwrite). You'll then need to
> look in the output segmentation and see what the segmentation ids are
>
> On 3/7/19 4:13 PM, std...@virgilio.it wrote:
> >
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> Hi list,
>
> I'd like to use the regions included in Yeo 17 networks
> (
> https://github.com/ThomasYeoLab/CBIG/tree/master/stable_projects/brain_parcellation/Yeo2011_fcMRI_cluste
> ring).
>
> in FS-FAST.
>
> Which is the command line to be used to create a segmentation in
> $SUBJECTS_DIR/$subject/mri in the same format as aseg.mgz? (I'd
> like
> to use it to run fcseed-config, specify -seg yourseg.mgz
> -segid).
>
> Thanks
>
> Stefano
>
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