Hi,

As Bruce has said, if you are thinking about digital up & digital down, it is 
best that you make it codec-agnostic data-pipe. If you want to implement FEC, 
there are several interesting approaches. The satellite can decode what it 
receives, correct uplink errors, re-encode and send. Another approach is to 
pass everything, without dropping invalid packets, letting receiving users to 
correct the bit errors that have accumulated on the uplink and downlink (this 
has the advantage that users may play with their own FEC algorithms). An 
interesting design constraint for a data-pipe intended for digital voice is 
latency.

Finally, since no one else mentioned this yet, it's worth checking out the 
LilacSat-1 from Harbin Institute of Technology. This is the only existing 
satellite that uses codec2 and it has an analog FM uplink and the downlink is 
codec2 interleaved with the telemetry in a 9k6 BPSK protected with 
convolutional coding.

If able to choose, I would prefer a data pipe with digital up & down, since 
this allows many experiments besides codec2 (and also playing with codec 
rates), and perhaps supporting simultaneous users (maybe it's good to take a 
look to the remarks I wrote at the end of 
https://destevez.net/2016/10/lilacsat-1-codec-2-downlink/)

Regarding what Steve says about 100kHz FM, I don't think that such a wideband 
signal is manageable from the spectral allocation point of view, at least for 
the 70cm band (but should be OK for 13cm or higher). Also, I wouldn't get too 
enthusiastic about trying to push a high-baudrate signal. Most of the 
satellites I've seen in 70cm use 19k2 or less.

73,

Dani EA4GPZ.

-----Mensaje original-----
De: cshearer [mailto:[email protected]] 
Enviado el: miércoles, 16 de enero de 2019 18:09
Para: [email protected]
Asunto: [Freetel-codec2] Satellite Use of Codec2

Hello,
     Starting plans of a cube sat project and have been contemplating the use 
of this codec method (instead of other possible options) for the project and 
not sure if this has been yet done or what the thoughts would be on the use of 
this codec vs other methods as I want to incorporate both digital voice and 
analog voice options. Initial thoughts are to use DV codec2 method for possible 
greater benefits for both better RF & audio qualities vs analog FM for a cross 
banded voice repeater as a part of the satellites mission. The implementation 
would be via on board modem to transmit the digital modulation using an MCU for 
the direct modulating of the down-link from the received analog up-link input.

Possible mode configurations would be:
Mode 1 = Up-link Analog FM / Down-link DV Narrow band (Modulated directly 
onboard satellite via MCU hardware modem) Mode 2 = Up-link DV Narrow-band / 
Down-link DV Narrow-band (Direct pass through of digital data signal, no 
reprocessing of signal) Mode 3 = Up-link Analog FM / Down-link Analog FM

     These configuration modes would allow real time in flight mission testing 
/ comparison of the DV codec2 vs analog in 2 different
configurations)

     Would like to know thoughts and would appreciate any points of discussions 
for this application.


Thank you,
NE3KO


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