Hi Jeroen,

Further to David's reply, you might like to look at the AFF3CT site
https://aff3ct.github.io/  which provides comprehensive info on channel
coding.  David's codes have been Repeat Accumulate (RA) LDPC codes - we
used them initially as encoding is very easy (eg well suited to a
microController).   Of course you probably don't need this - so you might
get slightly better performance with other options.   I haven't played with
the AFF3CT software much, but it does cover RA.

Cheers, Bill


> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2020 23:30:58 +0200
> Subject: [Freetel-codec2] Generating LDPC code for 6000 mode
> Hi,
>
> The experiments with mode 6000 are going pretty well.
> Another local HAM (PE1ITR) even managed to work our repeater with just a
> HackRF.
> Compared to analog FM it seems to perform pretty well.
>
> But I would like to take it a bit further and try to introduce some FEC.
> Since the currently used codec2 mode only needs 3200bps there is still
> plenty of room.
> I was thinking about a rate 2/3 code (687 code bits for 458 data bits),
> but I am a bit puzzled with the ldpc octave code.
> How exactly do I generate the needed matrix (and ofcourse the C and
> header files)?
>
> Regards,
> Jeroen
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Rowe <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2020 07:29:34 +0930
> Subject: Re: [Freetel-codec2] Generating LDPC code for 6000 mode
> Hi Jeroen,
>
> Hey that's great work with working the new mode on a HackRF, is that
> about 50mW max?
>
> Yes, FEC is a fine idea.
>
> A friend has been kind enough to generate the codes for me, however it's
> not a process that is automated or straight forward.  Couple of options:
>
> 1/ Use an existing code.
> 2/ Use a code with more data bits than you require, and fill them with
> known bits at the encoder and decoder that you don't transmit.  This
> effectively lowers the code rate a little.  I do that for FreeDV 2020.
> 3/ Peruse the CML library codes and see if they have one that fits your
> use case, e.g. ldpcut.m
>
> There is an Octave utility to generate .[ch] files and run the codes in C.
>
> Cheers,
> David
>
> On 12/6/20 7:00 am, Jeroen Vreeken wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > The experiments with mode 6000 are going pretty well.
> > Another local HAM (PE1ITR) even managed to work our repeater with just a
> > HackRF.
> > Compared to analog FM it seems to perform pretty well.
> >
> > But I would like to take it a bit further and try to introduce some FEC.
> > Since the currently used codec2 mode only needs 3200bps there is still
> > plenty of room.
> > I was thinking about a rate 2/3 code (687 code bits for 458 data bits),
> > but I am a bit puzzled with the ldpc octave code.
> > How exactly do I generate the needed matrix (and ofcourse the C and
> > header files)?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Jeroen
> >
> >
> >
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