Hi Adrian,

The RpiTx doc suggest 1.5GHz, but I haven't tried it.  Suspect it gets
"noisier" as freq increases, however as the power is so low it may still
meet spurious requirements.

Cheers,
David

On 9/8/20 6:48 pm, Adrian Musceac wrote:
> Thanks David for the news.
> One question: how high can the Pi transmitter go in frequency?
> Our 70 cm band is pretty crowded, but the 23 cm band and 2305-2400 MHz
> bands are underutilized and we want to make use of them. The Pi/RTL
> system is a good candidate because of price.
> 
> Adrian
> 
> On August 9, 2020 8:14:52 AM UTC, David Rowe <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>     Hi Adrian,
> 
>     You data mode (and HNAP) sound pretty cool.  Thanks, I enjoyed the SDRA
>     HNAP talk by Lukas, that's quite a sophisticated system.
> 
>     -/-
> 
>     A couple of recent developments in this area by Bill, VK5DSP, and myself:
> 
>     1/ We have ported the 4FSK/LLR/LDPC code work to C in this PR
> 
>       https://github.com/drowe67/codec2/pull/136
> 
>     Some command line examples down the bottom, e.g. 5 bits/s with a MDS of
>     -160dBm (!), and 100 bit/s across-town links on 25uW (!!):
> 
>       http://www.rowetel.com/?p=7273
> 
>     You can scale to any bit rate you like of course, if you have the link
>     margin.
> 
>     The 4FSK/LLR/OFDM work has been carefully developed to hit the
>     theoretical rate limits, which I understand are about Eb/No=7dB
>     (information bits) for 4FSK.  Pls correct me if I'm not explaining this
>     correctly Bill!
> 
>     2/ The RPi/RTLSDR based system is moving along, yesterday we managed to
>     sent a few packets over a 10km non-LOS (135dBm loss) link on 145.5 MHz
>     at 5000 bits/s, using 13dBm Tx power.  Current code/status here:
> 
>       https://github.com/drowe67/pirip
> 
>     3/ Steve and I have also been work on the HF data modes.  We have
>     initial versions of 3 new OFDM/LDPC data modes running in C, between 10
>     and -5dB SNR.  Next step is some tuning and QAM16.  That modem might
>     also run OK at higher rates on VHF and above, but we haven't tried it.
> 
>     Cheers,
>     David
> 
> 
> 
>     On 9/8/20 3:57 pm, Adrian Musceac wrote:
> 
>         Hi David,
> 
>         I've watched with interest your recent foray into FreeDV data
>         transmission.
>         There's a new and interesting project called HNAP (https://hnap.de )
>         which has the same goals (long distance IP links). The project
>         is well
>         described in this year's SDRA talk by Lukas O.
>         Inspired by both your project and theirs, I wrote a 4FSK data
>         mode which
>         has the following characteristics:
> 
>         - 100 kbaud, 1/2 convolutional code
>         - fits in a 200 kHz channel on the 70 cm and 23 cm bands (IARU
>         region 1
>         allocations)
>         - full duplex
>         - works with 50 watt FM amplifiers
>         - good SNR performance, 20 km point to point access distance
>         tested with
>         small non-directional antennas
>         - carries layer 2 (Ethernet) frames
> 
>         Do you have anything planned for VHF as well?
> 
>         Best regards,
>         Adrian
>         
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