Hans Meine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb am 31.03.05 13:37:06:

> > You suggested to register all jobs to the recordserver, right?
> Yes and no - I dislike the idea that my Freevo shuts down if I do not use it 
> (the idletimer method).   I think the user should always initiate the 
> shutdown.  Of course, if he/she shuts down the system, there should not be 
> "active jobs" (which could be recordings, transcodings, CD/DVD ripping, ...). 
>  
> I propose a "waiting for XXX to finish..." dialog in that case, where one can 
> press cancel if one decides that one wants to listen to music again / 
> similar.
>

Okay, I guess this is a question of taste, but probably one can have both.
Georg already wrote that idletimer plugin and added a solution to pause/resume 
it.
I would prefer a automatic shutdown, if it is implemeted correctly.
Especially I would like to have this for the nights and the mornings, where 
noone is using freevo.
But as I said the user should be able to choose...


> When Freevo boots up, I would add a check whether this is within a small time 
> window after the programmed bootup, and then directly start that shutdown 
> wait screen.  If that happens in the middle of the night, Freevo will just 
> shutdown after the recording, but if you happen to see it and want to use 
> your Freevo box, you could press "Cancel".
> 
> > I agree totally in this. Will something like that be implemented in
> > freevo2.0? For the moment I am just looking for a fast and easy solution.
> I think this wait-dialog shouldn't be much more difficult than the idletimer, 
> but one needs to know the Freevo UI internals (which [un]fortunately changed 
> between 1.3.x and 2.0, so I am not sure if it's worth implementing ATM).
>

This is why I always thought it is not worth to look in that thing now, but who 
knows when 
freevo2.0 will be ready.
After looking at your work I have the feeling that I have all the pieces I need,
I just have to puzzle them together, that is why I decided to do it now, even if
everything  will have to be chanced again for 2.0...
 
> > Moreover I understood from your postings that your patches are not able to
> > shut down freevo automatically after a recording?
> Right.
> 
> > The idletimer plugin would solve that problem.
> ..I'd prefer the word "work around".. ;-))

Work around is good enough for the moment :-)

> > A helper script which is callable from inside and outside freevo, has the
> > advantage, that you can make it the preferred shutdown methode of your
> > system. Moreover it is usable for the automatic shutdown and the shutdown
> > form the menu.
> You're right; actually that's something I've been thinking about already.  
> (How to cope with external shutdowns.)  An even more reliable method would be 
> to call nvram-wakeup from within the recordserver as soon as the program 
> schedule changes; as long as no reboot is needed, this allows even an 
> external halt, even a power outage at any time.)
> 

Right, that would be ideal solution, but that would have to wait for 2.0.

> > Thanks again, I hope it is okay for you, if I am messing around with it a
> > little bit?
> Of course!

Thanks, if I get my PC working again (it seems the motherboard is broken),
I will work on this on the weekend. 

Greetings from K�ln
Tanja




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