At the time Red Hat made the changes I noted, it was 4 or 5 years ago. The changes between 7.3 and 9 WERE minor; however, the changes between 7.2 and 7.3 were rather alarming. Especially when you go out to a client site to upgrade their server, hardware and all, only to find out you can't manage the system the same way. It was a rude shock and a costly one, somewhere around $4000 over the remaining life of the contract.
Don't get me wrong when I say "THEY" in reference to Red Hat. I think Mr. Ewing has done a fabulous job building a technology empire that is based on Freedom. Hat's off to him!!! Red Hat, though, has one person who sets the direction of development. At the time, that person's vision and direction, although a boon to Red Hat, became a boondoggle to me. I saw a distro going in a direction I didn't like so I chose to bail out.
For Linuxconf, I
had been using Linux in various forms since 1998 and had become VERY accustomed to the quirks of Linuxconf. In fact, I could do a raw install and have sendmail set up and sending in less than 5 minutes after the reboot. When Linuxconf was removed, no other option had been put in place which meant hand hacking the configs. In a production environment of any size, I now use Webmin and Usermin for configuration of the various services.
Actually, I would debate the whole "MP3 is not a free format" thing. ISO standard 11172 governs the MPEG standard as well as the individual layers within the digital stream. IMHO, Thomson has no claim to MP3 due to the ISO defining the encoding and decoding processes. The ONLY thing Thomson MAY have claim to is the Joint Stereo portion of the codec but that needs to be challenged under parallel development. Obviously, I'm not a fan of software patents.
Actually, I need to clarify. I install from a LiveCD distro called MEPIS. Check it out at www.mepis.org. From there, I dump the apt.sources list and add in ONLY Debian repositories and force Synaptic, the package manager front-end, to use Unstable as it's primary source for packages. Over time, my system will deprecate the MEPIS packages and replace them with Debian Unstable. After I run the initial package upgrade, I add in Chris Marillat's repos and a few others for certain "questionable" packages.
I know Debian is for servers. That's why I like it. The Stable version is rock solid and just plain runs. Unstable gets a little weird at times but it generally runs like a champ for me. My next box will be a 4 proc / 8 core, 64GB RAM, 2TB RAID5 box with triple redundant power supplies. Oh.... It's for editing video and
re-rendering digital animation.
Karl Lattimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Wed, 2006-08-09 at 09:36 +0200, Gael STEPHAN wrote:
Le mardi 08 août 2006 à 16:38 -0700, Michael Beal a écrit :
Red Hat decided to remove the MP3 libs from 7.3.Yeah, RedHat is the most hardened distro, in terms of licenses. And MP3 turned to become licensed when Thomson bought it.
Any distro that ships with mp3 embedded is outlaw, actually :) Check your favorite one, i'm pretty sure you have to download it..
mp3 is actually free on linux now, fluendo bought a licence (for everyone ;) I believe its being added to the gstreamer-plugins-good package soon.
First Sys admin job i had my boss said and I quote "Linuxconf breaks things", I found myself repeating that sentiment over many years to many people after I had some bad experiences with it. The system-config tools are good, but there needs to be more of them and I think they should be adopted universally, so SuSE add in their tools (killing yast in the process) and ubuntu add their tools etc... this way a full config system will be put together in no time at all consistent, gnomely ;)They also made changes to KDE that I didn't like and felt were completely unwarranted. Also Linuxconf, the old configuration "center" for Linux, was removed.Like Tack says, linuxconf was ugly and outdated. Use webmin if you want easy-admin! At least it's still maintained. I'd say i'm happy with system-config-* tools.
Regarding KDE, if i remember the only changes that were made was cosmetic lifting for unified desktop with gnome ?
Anyway, for KDE, you have Mandriva :)
redhat -> fedora it is the most solid distribution out there and has a great deal of financial support, thinking of redhat as a 'THEY' isn't healthy, they're actually pretty cool guys who have really thought about what they'd like to do with the distribution, things like cairo have come out of redhat and thats definitely not a bad thing. The changes between rh 7.3 and 9 were minor, linuxconf axed, gnome 2 added, system-config tools added, everything else was just humming along updating.
These were the top three which got me going against Red Hat. After I saw Red Hat 9 and everything that had been changed, I decided I'd go looking for another distro. Simply put, Red Hat's changes made me uncomfortable with the system as THEY saw it so I decided I wouldn't use their distro any longer.These change didn't affected the 'spirit' of the distribution, and are more.. evolution, i'd say, but i know changes often scares ;)
IMHO Gnome is a far more complete solutionHere are some of my beefs with other distros:Kunbuntu, Mandriva ?
1) Ubuntu defaults to GNOME which I can't stand.
SLED is great but openSuSE is stilll way too top heavy too many applications, too many bad applications, too many mediocre applications and too many good applications which do the same thing! SLED kills this off, only the best of the best have made it in, still proprietary stuff is in there like realplay, flash, acrobat and a few other things, it is an enterprise distro although I don't think any proprietary software makes it into opensuse.3) SuSE seems OK but I've just not gotten around to trying it.Too much proprietary software in this distro, even if i works
Debian is for servers, try ubuntu, kubuntu. Because its for servers its way out of date (although i still don't understand this logic myself please take any comments up with debian)For me, Debian Unstable is the best fit. I can usually fix any problems and everything just works right the first time (usually...)Debian have a linuxconf-like tool ?
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