On 21/06/2010 6:42, Dirk Meyer wrote: > Hi everyone, > > yes, I'm not dead. It was a very busy year and I had no time to hack on > Freevo. But I plan to add a Freevo-day each week in my calendar to start > coding again. > > On 17.06.2010 17:58, Adam Charrett wrote: >> Freevo 1.x is still going (reasonably) strong although slightly long >> in the tooth and Freevo 2, while further forward than a couple of >> years ago, isn't yet ready for release. > Sadly, no. > >> So in the interim I'm thinking about the following changes to the >> Freevo 1.x code base with the idea of calling it Freevo 1-NG (not >> quite 2 but no longer 1.x). >> >> 1. Getting rid of pygame and replacing it with WebKit and pygtk. >> This means all the skins would be written in HTML and Javascript >> (lots more people able to do that than there are for our current skin >> format)) and we could then have video in the same window! > Well, this is one reason I started 2.0. But stripping the GUI code out > of Freevo wasn't that easy. That part is mostly done in Freevo 2.0. I'm > not sure I like the idea of 1.0 NG. It seems to me that it is waste of > good man power. 2.0 is closer to being finished than you think, maybe > your skills are better used on the 2.0. > > Let me go into details of the SVN head. There are two Freevo versions. > One is based on mevas (imlib2 based rendering) and the version I use > right due to the fact that the clutter-based Version has no video > playback, yet. But it is deprecated. > > Now let's take a look at the clutter-based version. The internal changes > I wanted to make for 2.0 are done. The core is ready for a release. The > whole gui code has moved out of the core. Besides the idlebar plugins > nothing depends on the GUI. If you want to build a gui based on webkit, > it shouldn't be that hard. If you want to use GTK, you are already done > -- sort of. The code is based on clutter which is wrapped in kaa.candy. > Clutter is the 3D-toolkit Gnome 3.0 will use for mutter and other > eye-candy stuff. > > If you want to port a plugin from 1.x to the 2.0 version, you have a > green-light from me. Again: the core is ready and the basic plugins such > as video, audio and image are working. Is there a wiki page for freevo2 like freevo1's wiki has on writing plugins ? http://doc.freevo.org/DevelopPlugins If there was I'd give a go at porting the appletrailers plugin. It's pretty broken as is anyway and needs a full rewrite.
> The video plugin lacks actual > playback support. I was waiting for Jason to develop a new kaa.popcorn, > our player module to render the video on a clutter texture. Since Jason > has the same time problems as I have, I'm not sure I should wait for it > any longer and my next hacking days will be spent on video support: Having just checked out freevo2 svn for the first time in a long time this is good news (your hacking not Jason's lack of time). The freevo-candy version looks great, if video rendering is added a basic requirement will have been met to encourage others to start contributing to it. > 1. Use gstreamer to render the video inside clutter. There already is > support for it in a clutter-gst package. Not what I wanted to have, but > I'm not sure I have time for the proper way. If it gets things moving this seems reasonable. > 2. Use mplayer as fallback. > > 3. Drop Xine support. I'm not sure kaa.xine actually works with the > latest version of Xine and it has a lot of code we do not need anymore. > > After I'm done with that, the 2.0 mevas directory will be deleted and I > will install the kaa.candy-based version on my media PC. I'll be watching the svn logs eagerly for this :) > What Freevo 2.0 really needs is TV support. That is kind of broken right > now. But to fix it, you do not even need to understand Freevo. There is > a directory tvserver that hold everything you need. As kaa libs you need > kaa.base and kaa.egp. That's it! > > So let me turn post this into a call for help for 2.0. If someone wants > to code one of the following parts, let me know: > > 1. Port cool 1.x plugins to 2.0 > 2. Fix the tvserver code > 3. Create a webserver (not done yet) > 4. Help on working on the video playback, vpdau etc. > 5. Test various components by using them in extra helpers, e.g. use > kaa.beacon, our media db outside Freevo. > > Regards, > > Dischi Any chance you could update http://doc.freevo.org/2.0/HelpNeeded with that list? If that page is completely out of date I can just remove the content and put your request up if you want? If it's up there at least it can be fleshed out and linked into other docs and work as it's done. John ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This SF.net email is sponsored by Sprint What will you do first with EVO, the first 4G phone? Visit sprint.com/first -- http://p.sf.net/sfu/sprint-com-first _______________________________________________ Freevo-devel mailing list Freevo-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-devel
