Thanks Duncan. Unfortunately this doesn't help.
I got the local_conf changes as you recommended using the convert_config
tool. The problem still exists.
especially the TV config section is now:

TV_VIDEO_GROUPS = [
    VideoGroup(vdev='/dev/video0',
               adev=None,
               input_type='composite 1',
               input_num=2,
               tuner_norm='PAL',
               tuner_type='external',
               tuner_chanlist='',
               desc='external tuner',
               group_type='ivtv')
               ]


More help will be gratefully appreciated

ilan


the output log file is now:


================================================================================
Freevo 1.7.4 r10133 started at Tue Nov 20 08:25:00 2007
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2007-11-20 08:25:00,556 INFO     config.py (477): logdir: /var/log
/var/log/freevo
2007-11-20 08:25:00,557 INFO     config.py (478): staticdir: /var/lib
/var/lib/freevo
2007-11-20 08:25:00,557 INFO     config.py (479): cachedir: /var/cache
/var/cache/freevo
2007-11-20 08:25:00,557 INFO     config.py (498): Loading freevo
configuration file "/home/ilan/.freevo/freevo.conf"
2007-11-20 08:25:00,658 INFO     config.py (585): Loading local
configuration file "/etc/freevo/local_conf.py"
Error: VIDEO_SHOW_DATA_DIR not found
ROM_DRIVES: Auto-detected and added "('/media/cdrom0', '/dev/hdd', 'CD-1')"
2007-11-20 08:25:00,761 INFO     config.py (983): overlaydir:
/var/cache/freevo/vfs
2007-11-20 08:25:00,762 DEBUG    config.py (1017): Using 'UTF-8' encoding
2007-11-20 08:25:00,762 DEBUG    config.py (1020): 'cdparanoia':
'/usr/bin/cdparanoia'
2007-11-20 08:25:00,762 DEBUG    config.py (1020): 'height': 600
2007-11-20 08:25:00,762 DEBUG    config.py (1020): 'df_xine': ''
2007-11-20 08:25:00,762 DEBUG    config.py (1020): 'xmame': ''
2007-11-20 08:25:00,763 DEBUG    config.py (1020): 'xine': '/usr/bin/xine'
2007-11-20 08:25:00,763 DEBUG    config.py (1020): 'lame': '/usr/bin/lame'
2007-11-20 08:25:00,763 DEBUG    config.py (1020): 'tv': 'ntsc'
2007-11-20 08:25:00,763 DEBUG    config.py (1020): 'jpegtran':
'/usr/bin/jpegtran'
2007-11-20 08:25:00,764 DEBUG    config.py (1020): 'width': 800
2007-11-20 08:25:00,764 DEBUG    config.py (1020): 'version': '2.1'
2007-11-20 08:25:00,764 DEBUG    config.py (1020): 'snes': ''
2007-11-20 08:25:00,764 DEBUG    config.py (1020): 'tvtime':
'/usr/bin/tvtime'
2007-11-20 08:25:00,765 DEBUG    config.py (1020): 'lsdvd': '/usr/bin/lsdvd'
2007-11-20 08:25:00,765 DEBUG    config.py (1020): 'oggenc':
'/usr/bin/oggenc'
2007-11-20 08:25:00,765 DEBUG    config.py (1020): 'vlc': '/usr/bin/vlc'
2007-11-20 08:25:00,765 DEBUG    config.py (1020): 'fbxine':
'/usr/bin/fbxine'
2007-11-20 08:25:00,765 DEBUG    config.py (1020): 'mplayer':
'/usr/bin/mplayer'
2007-11-20 08:25:00,766 DEBUG    config.py (1020): 'flac': '/usr/bin/flac'
2007-11-20 08:25:00,766 DEBUG    config.py (1020): 'setterm':
'/usr/bin/setterm'
2007-11-20 08:25:00,766 DEBUG    config.py (1020): 'geometry': '800x600'
2007-11-20 08:25:00,766 DEBUG    config.py (1020): 'mencoder':
'/usr/bin/mencoder'
2007-11-20 08:25:00,767 DEBUG    config.py (1020): 'mpav': ''
2007-11-20 08:25:00,768 DEBUG    config.py (1020): 'renice':
'/usr/bin/renice'
2007-11-20 08:25:00,768 DEBUG    config.py (1020): 'chanlist': 'us-cable'
2007-11-20 08:25:00,769 DEBUG    config.py (1020): 'display': 'x11'
2007-11-20 08:25:00,815 INFO     new process watcher instance
2007-11-20 08:25:00,977 DEBUG    audio/mpeg registered
2007-11-20 08:25:00,977 DEBUG    audio/ac3 registered
2007-11-20 08:25:00,977 DEBUG    application/adts registered
2007-11-20 08:25:00,977 DEBUG    audio/m4a registered
2007-11-20 08:25:00,977 DEBUG    application/ogg registered
2007-11-20 08:25:00,978 DEBUG    application/pcm registered
2007-11-20 08:25:00,978 DEBUG    video/asf registered
2007-11-20 08:25:00,978 DEBUG    video/flv registered
2007-11-20 08:25:00,978 DEBUG    application/mkv registered
2007-11-20 08:25:00,978 DEBUG    video/quicktime registered
2007-11-20 08:25:00,978 DEBUG    video/mpeg registered
2007-11-20 08:25:00,979 DEBUG    application/ogg registered
2007-11-20 08:25:00,979 DEBUG    video/real registered
2007-11-20 08:25:00,979 DEBUG    video/avi registered
2007-11-20 08:25:00,979 DEBUG    video/vcd registered
2007-11-20 08:25:00,979 DEBUG    audio/cd registered
2007-11-20 08:25:00,980 DEBUG    video/dvd registered
2007-11-20 08:25:00,980 DEBUG    video/dvd registered
2007-11-20 08:25:00,980 DEBUG    video/dvd registered
2007-11-20 08:25:00,980 DEBUG    video/vcd registered
2007-11-20 08:25:00,980 DEBUG    cd/unknown registered
2007-11-20 08:25:00,980 DEBUG    image/bmp registered
2007-11-20 08:25:00,981 DEBUG    image/gif registered
2007-11-20 08:25:00,981 DEBUG    image/jpeg registered
2007-11-20 08:25:00,981 DEBUG    image/png registered
2007-11-20 08:25:00,981 DEBUG    image/tiff registered
2007-11-20 08:25:00,981 DEBUG    games/gameboy registered
2007-11-20 08:25:00,982 DEBUG    games/snes registered
2007-11-20 08:25:00,982 DEBUG    directory registered
2007-11-20 08:25:00,982 DEBUG    text/xml registered
2007-11-20 08:25:00,982 DEBUG    text/plain registered
2007-11-20 08:25:00,982 DEBUG    application/flac registered
2007-11-20 08:25:01,184 DEBUG    rc.py (190): PyLirc resumed!
2007-11-20 08:25:01,935 DEBUG    main.py (214): load basic skin settings:
blurr
2007-11-20 08:25:02,789 DEBUG    plugin.py (553): loading tv as plugin
tv.PluginInterface
2007-11-20 08:25:02,797 DEBUG    plugin.py (553): loading video as plugin
video.PluginInterface
2007-11-20 08:25:02,845 DEBUG    plugin.py (553): loading
plugins.mediamenuas plugin
plugins.mediamenu.PluginInterface
2007-11-20 08:25:02,901 DEBUG    plugin.py (553): loading audio as plugin
audio.PluginInterface
2007-11-20 08:25:02,902 DEBUG    __init__.py (56):
audio.PluginInterface.__init__()
2007-11-20 08:25:02,902 DEBUG    plugin.py (553): loading
plugins.mediamenuas plugin
plugins.mediamenu.PluginInterface
2007-11-20 08:25:02,907 DEBUG    plugin.py (553): loading image as plugin
image.PluginInterface
2007-11-20 08:25:02,921 DEBUG    plugin.py (553): loading
plugins.mediamenuas plugin
plugins.mediamenu.PluginInterface
2007-11-20 08:25:02,926 DEBUG    plugin.py (553): loading
plugins.shutdownas plugin
plugins.shutdown.PluginInterface
2007-11-20 08:25:02,931 DEBUG    plugin.py (553): loading
plugins.rom_drivesas plugin
plugins.rom_drives.autostart
2007-11-20 08:25:02,940 INFO     rom_drives.py (303): Getting capabilities
for CD-1
2007-11-20 08:25:02,942 INFO     rom_drives.py (316): Drive CD-1 can close
2007-11-20 08:25:02,943 INFO     rom_drives.py (320): Drive CD-1 can open
2007-11-20 08:25:02,944 INFO     rom_drives.py (324): Drive CD-1 can select
speed
2007-11-20 08:25:02,944 DEBUG    rom_drives.py (328): /dev/hdd
cdc=0x0039fbef
2007-11-20 08:25:02,944 DEBUG    rom_drives.py (329): CDC_CLOSE_TRAY
2007-11-20 08:25:02,944 DEBUG    rom_drives.py (330): CDC_OPEN_TRAY
2007-11-20 08:25:02,945 DEBUG    rom_drives.py (331): CDC_LOCK
2007-11-20 08:25:02,945 DEBUG    rom_drives.py (332): CDC_SELECT_SPEED
2007-11-20 08:25:02,945 DEBUG    rom_drives.py (333): not CDC_SELECT_DISC
2007-11-20 08:25:02,945 DEBUG    rom_drives.py (334): CDC_MULTI_SESSION
2007-11-20 08:25:02,946 DEBUG    rom_drives.py (335): CDC_MCN
2007-11-20 08:25:02,946 DEBUG    rom_drives.py (336): CDC_MEDIA_CHANGED
2007-11-20 08:25:02,946 DEBUG    rom_drives.py (337): CDC_PLAY_AUDIO
2007-11-20 08:25:02,946 DEBUG    rom_drives.py (338): CDC_RESET
2007-11-20 08:25:02,947 DEBUG    rom_drives.py (339): CDC_DRIVE_STATUS
2007-11-20 08:25:02,947 DEBUG    rom_drives.py (340): CDC_GENERIC_PACKET
2007-11-20 08:25:02,947 DEBUG    rom_drives.py (341): CDC_CD_R
2007-11-20 08:25:02,947 DEBUG    rom_drives.py (342): CDC_CD_RW
2007-11-20 08:25:02,948 DEBUG    rom_drives.py (343): CDC_DVD
2007-11-20 08:25:02,948 DEBUG    rom_drives.py (344): CDC_DVD_R
2007-11-20 08:25:02,948 DEBUG    rom_drives.py (345): not CDC_DVD_RAM
2007-11-20 08:25:02,948 DEBUG    rom_drives.py (346): not CDC_MO_DRIVE
2007-11-20 08:25:02,949 DEBUG    rom_drives.py (347): CDC_MRW
2007-11-20 08:25:02,949 DEBUG    rom_drives.py (348): CDC_MRW_W
2007-11-20 08:25:02,949 DEBUG    rom_drives.py (349): CDC_RAM
2007-11-20 08:25:02,950 INFO     rom_drives.py (359): Getting drive staus
for CD-1
2007-11-20 08:25:02,953 DEBUG    rom_drives.py (373): /dev/hdd cds=1
2007-11-20 08:25:02,954 DEBUG    rom_drives.py (375): CDS_NO_DISC
2007-11-20 08:25:02,954 DEBUG    rom_drives.py (420): Inserting disc in
drive CD-1
2007-11-20 08:25:02,962 DEBUG    plugin.py (553): loading
plugins.ejectromdrives as plugin plugins.ejectromdrives.PluginInterface
2007-11-20 08:25:02,981 DEBUG    plugin.py (553): loading
plugins.rom_drivesas plugin
plugins.rom_drives.rom_items
2007-11-20 08:25:02,986 DEBUG    plugin.py (553): loading
plugins.rom_drivesas plugin
plugins.rom_drives.rom_items
2007-11-20 08:25:02,992 DEBUG    plugin.py (553): loading
plugins.rom_drivesas plugin
plugins.rom_drives.rom_items
2007-11-20 08:25:02,997 DEBUG    plugin.py (553): loading
plugins.rom_drivesas plugin
plugins.rom_drives.rom_items
2007-11-20 08:25:03,002 DEBUG    plugin.py (553): loading plugins.mixer as
plugin plugins.mixer.PluginInterface
2007-11-20 08:25:03,038 DEBUG    plugin.py (553): loading
video.plugins.imdbas plugin
video.plugins.imdb.PluginInterface
2007-11-20 08:25:03,218 DEBUG    plugin.py (553): loading
plugins.file_opsas plugin
plugins.file_ops.PluginInterface
2007-11-20 08:25:03,232 DEBUG    __init__.py (218): Building the xml hash
database...
2007-11-20 08:25:03,232 DEBUG    plugin.py (553): loading
video.plugins.mplayer as plugin video.plugins.mplayer.PluginInterface
2007-11-20 08:25:03,290 DEBUG    __init__.py (249): done
2007-11-20 08:25:03,293 DEBUG    plugin.py (553): loading
audio.plugins.mplayer as plugin audio.plugins.mplayer.PluginInterface
2007-11-20 08:25:03,330 DEBUG    plugin.py (553): loading
audio.plugins.detach as plugin audio.plugins.detach.PluginInterface
2007-11-20 08:25:03,336 DEBUG    plugin.py (553): loading
audio.plugins.detachbar as plugin audio.plugins.detachbar.PluginInterface
2007-11-20 08:25:03,342 DEBUG    plugin.py (553): loading
tv.plugins.mplayeras plugin
tv.plugins.mplayer.PluginInterface
2007-11-20 08:25:03,572 DEBUG    plugin.py (553): loading
tv.plugins.irsend_generic as plugin
tv.plugins.irsend_generic.PluginInterface
2007-11-20 08:25:03,577 DEBUG    plugin.py (553): loading
video.plugins.bookmarker as plugin video.plugins.bookmarker.PluginInterface
2007-11-20 08:25:03,641 DEBUG    plugin.py (553): loading
plugins.tiny_osdas plugin
plugins.tiny_osd.PluginInterface
2007-11-20 08:25:03,656 DEBUG    plugin.py (553): loading
tv.plugins.scheduled_recordings as plugin
tv.plugins.scheduled_recordings.PluginInterface
server_string=http://localhost:18001/
2007-11-20 08:25:03,901 DEBUG    plugin.py (553): loading
tv.plugins.view_recordings as plugin
tv.plugins.view_recordings.PluginInterface
2007-11-20 08:25:03,907 DEBUG    plugin.py (553): loading
tv.plugins.view_favorites as plugin
tv.plugins.view_favorites.PluginInterface
2007-11-20 08:25:03,941 DEBUG    plugin.py (553): loading
tv.plugins.manual_record as plugin tv.plugins.manual_record.PluginInterface
2007-11-20 08:25:03,947 DEBUG    plugin.py (553): loading plugins.idlebar as
plugin plugins.idlebar.PluginInterface
2007-11-20 08:25:03,977 DEBUG    plugin.py (553): loading
plugins.idlebar.tvas plugin
plugins.idlebar.tv.PluginInterface
2007-11-20 08:25:03,983 DEBUG    plugin.py (553): loading
plugins.idlebar.cdstatus as plugin plugins.idlebar.cdstatus.PluginInterface
2007-11-20 08:25:03,989 DEBUG    plugin.py (553): loading
plugins.idlebar.diskfree as plugin plugins.idlebar.diskfree.PluginInterface
2007-11-20 08:25:04,005 DEBUG    plugin.py (553): loading plugins.idlebar as
plugin plugins.idlebar.clock
2007-11-20 08:25:04,011 DEBUG    plugin.py (553): loading
video.plugins.xineas plugin
video.plugins.xine.PluginInterface
2007-11-20 08:25:04,073 DEBUG    plugin.py (553): loading
audio.plugins.xineas plugin
audio.plugins.xine.PluginInterface
2007-11-20 08:25:04,241 DEBUG    plugin.py (553): loading
tv.plugins.ivtv_record as plugin tv.plugins.ivtv_record.PluginInterface
2007-11-20 08:25:05,355 DEBUG    Trying video/dvd
2007-11-20 08:25:05,423 DEBUG    Trying directory
2007-11-20 08:25:06,265 DEBUG    epg_xmltv.py (89): XMLTV, reading cached
file (/var/cache/freevo/TV.xml.pickled)
2007-11-20 08:25:06,749 DEBUG    epg_xmltv.py (117): XMLTV, got cached guide
(version 6).
2007-11-20 08:25:06,770 DEBUG    epg_types.py (288): epg: Returning new
results
2007-11-20 08:25:06,799 DEBUG    epg_types.py (288): epg: Returning new
results
2007-11-20 08:25:07,501 DEBUG    tvguide.py (141): TVGUIDE EVENT is
MENU_DOWN
2007-11-20 08:25:07,543 DEBUG    epg_types.py (288): epg: Returning new
results
2007-11-20 08:25:07,555 DEBUG    epg_types.py (288): epg: Returning new
results
2007-11-20 08:25:07,663 DEBUG    tvguide.py (141): TVGUIDE EVENT is
MENU_DOWN
2007-11-20 08:25:07,664 DEBUG    epg_types.py (288): epg: Returning new
results
2007-11-20 08:25:07,678 DEBUG    epg_types.py (288): epg: Returning new
results
2007-11-20 08:25:07,819 DEBUG    tvguide.py (141): TVGUIDE EVENT is
MENU_DOWN
2007-11-20 08:25:07,820 DEBUG    epg_types.py (288): epg: Returning new
results
2007-11-20 08:25:07,832 DEBUG    epg_types.py (288): epg: Returning new
results
2007-11-20 08:25:07,951 DEBUG    tvguide.py (141): TVGUIDE EVENT is
MENU_DOWN
2007-11-20 08:25:07,952 DEBUG    epg_types.py (288): epg: Returning new
results
2007-11-20 08:25:07,964 DEBUG    epg_types.py (288): epg: Returning new
results
2007-11-20 08:25:08,403 DEBUG    tvguide.py (141): TVGUIDE EVENT is
MENU_SELECT
vg.group_type is ivtv
2007-11-20 08:25:08,500 DEBUG    v4l2.py (246): Video opened for
'/dev/video0'
2007-11-20 08:25:08,572 DEBUG    v4l2.py (470): setstdbyname: ntsc
(0x0000B000) set
2007-11-20 08:25:08,605 DEBUG    v4l2.py (475): setstdbyname: ntsc
(0x0000B000) set
2007-11-20 08:25:08,614 DEBUG    ivtv.py (132): streamTypeV4l2ToIVTV 3 -> 10
2007-11-20 08:25:08,615 DEBUG    v4l2.py (743): "Video
Aspect"                : value 1->1
2007-11-20 08:25:08,616 DEBUG    v4l2.py (743): "Audio Sampling
Frequency"    : value 1->1
2007-11-20 08:25:08,616 DEBUG    v4l2.py (743): "Audio Layer II
Bitrate"      : value 10->10
2007-11-20 08:25:08,616 DEBUG    v4l2.py (743): "Audio Encoding
Layer"        : value 1->1
2007-11-20 08:25:08,616 DEBUG    v4l2.py (743): "Audio Stereo
Mode"           : value 0->0
2007-11-20 08:25:08,617 DEBUG    v4l2.py (743): "Audio Stereo Mode
Extension" : value 0->0
2007-11-20 08:25:08,617 DEBUG    v4l2.py (743): "Audio
Emphasis"              : value 0->0
2007-11-20 08:25:08,617 DEBUG    v4l2.py (743): "Audio
CRC"                   : value 0->0
2007-11-20 08:25:08,617 DEBUG    v4l2.py (743): "Video B
Frames"              : value 2->2
2007-11-20 08:25:08,618 DEBUG    v4l2.py (743): "Video Bitrate
Mode"          : value 0->0
2007-11-20 08:25:08,618 DEBUG    v4l2.py (743): "Video
Bitrate"               : value 8000000->8000000
2007-11-20 08:25:08,618 DEBUG    v4l2.py (743): "Video Peak
Bitrate"          : value 9600000->9600000
2007-11-20 08:25:08,619 DEBUG    v4l2.py (743): "Spatial Filter
Mode"         : value 0->0
2007-11-20 08:25:08,619 DEBUG    v4l2.py (743): "Temporal Filter
Mode"        : value 0->0
2007-11-20 08:25:08,620 DEBUG    v4l2.py (743): "Spatial
Filter"              : value 0->0
2007-11-20 08:25:08,620 DEBUG    v4l2.py (743): "Temporal
Filter"             : value 0->0
2007-11-20 08:25:08,620 DEBUG    v4l2.py (743): "Median Filter
Type"          : value 0->0
2007-11-20 08:25:08,620 DEBUG    v4l2.py (743): "Video GOP
Size"              : value 12->12
2007-11-20 08:25:08,621 DEBUG    v4l2.py (743): "Video GOP
Closure"           : value 1->1
2007-11-20 08:25:08,621 DEBUG    ivtv.py (120): streamTypeIvtvToV4l2 10 -> 3
2007-11-20 08:25:08,621 DEBUG    v4l2.py (743): "Stream
Type"                 : value 3->3
2007-11-20 08:25:08,621 DEBUG    v4l2.py (407): setinputbyname: Composite
1->2 set
(-20, '/usr/bin/mplayer', 'xv,sdl,x11,', '', 'oss:/dev/dsp', '-autosync 100
-nolirc -nojoystick -autoq 100 -screenw 800 -screenh 600 -fs',
'/dev/video0')
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/freevo/main.py", line 288, in
eventhandler
    app.eventhandler(event)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/freevo/menu.py", line 494, in
eventhandler
    if not isinstance(menu, Menu) and menu.eventhandler(event):
  File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/freevo/tv/tvguide.py", line 226, in
eventhandler
    pi.actions()[0][0](menuw=self.menuw)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/freevo/tv/programitem.py", line
194, in play
    self.parent.player('tv', self.prog.channel_id)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/freevo/tv/tvmenu.py", line 81, in
start_tv
    plugin.getbyname(plugin.TV).Play(mode, tuner_id)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/freevo/tv/plugins/mplayer.py", line
175, in Play
    mpl = '--prio=%s %s -vo %s %s -ao %s %s -slave %s %s' % args
TypeError: not enough arguments for format string
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Freevo 1.7.4 r10133 finished at Tue Nov 20 08:25:00 2007
================================================================================

On Nov 19, 2007 11:29 PM, Duncan Webb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> ilan barak wrote:
> > I am having a hard time configuring 1.7.4. the previous version that I
> > gladely used for over 2 years was 1.5.0 on Debian Sarge
> > I had a HD failure, so I am going through the installation hardship once
> > again. This time on Ubuntu 7.10 Gusty Gibbon
> > I've got most running OK, except for watching TV (not recording) .  i
> > have mplayer configured as the TV player.
> >
> > Please help me resolve this. I assume that I am not configuring the
> > video (Tv) correctly.
>
> First make a backup of local_conf.py and then run:
> freevo convert_config /path/to/local_conf.py
>
> You will notice that VIDEO_GROUPS has changes to TV_VIDEO_GROUPS, then
> when happy run:
> freevo convert_config /path/to/local_conf.py -w
>
> Quite a lot of config settings have changed (for the groupings in the
> webconfig tool)
>
> CHILDAPP_DEBUG = 1 is now:
> DEBUG_CHILDAPP = 1
>
> TV_VIDEO_GROUPS = [
>   VideoGroup(vdev='/dev/video0',
>      adev=None,
>      input_type='composite 1',
>      input_num=2,
>      tuner_norm='PAL',
>      tuner_type='external',
> #     tuner_chanlist='',
>      desc='external tuner',
>      group_type='ivtv'
>   )
> ]
>
> HTH
> Duncan
>
> > it seems that freevo does not understand that I am using an external
> > tuner, and am feeding the video analog composite into a PVR-150.
> >
> > I added two debug print lines in mplayer.py to see what was going on:
>
> [snip]
>
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