-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

Nicholas Thompson wrote:
> One point that slipped by in the hail of ">>>>>'s" was a distinction
> that somebody made between simulation and mathematics.   While I am
> asking REALLY dumb questions,  I wanted somebody to explain to me how
> ALGEBRA is not a kind of simulation? 

Algebra is analogous to source code (and its language).  Where the
source code can describe what a simulation is supposed to do, it is not
the simulation, itself.

Both algebra and source code are [de|pre]scriptions for a machine.  But,
for the [de|pre]scription to be realized, a machine has to actually push
real stuff around (e.g. electrons).  If real stuff isn't being pushed
around, you don't have a simulation.

Now, a calculating machine that assists in (or does by itself) algebraic
transforms can be considered a simulation.  But, there's a remaining
property of simulations in that they must _represent_ some other thing,
a referent.  Unless the symbols being manipulated by the calculating
machine refer to the properties/variables of some referent, then it's
not a simulation... it's just a computation.

And your questions are not tedious at all.

- --
glen e. p. ropella, 971-219-3846, http://tempusdictum.com
A little government and a little luck are necessary in life, but only a
fool trust either of them. -- P. J. O'Rourke

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux)
Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org

iD8DBQFGqK/hZeB+vOTnLkoRAgJLAKC5NouWX23cLbXdDcwCGyxzCavcAwCgqmiX
bb47i84u3p238hNwdO/FwpI=
=enoJ
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

============================================================
FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv
Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College
lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org

Reply via email to