Perpetual motion machines are ever popular... like Ponzi schemes. You can sell'm by the dozen.
The consensus, scientific/governmental climate models of the IPCC are all use an estimated "level of CO2 stabilization". No one discusses whether that's possible, just what level to pick. It's actually not a valid concept at all. Here's why. How you get to 'stabilizing' CO2 while maintaining continual multiplying economic expansion is answered by the economists'' definition of 'decoupling'. The definition of economic 'decoupling', adopted by the OECD in 2001 and still in use, is increasing wealth faster than its harmful effects. They don't say it quite that way, but check pp #2 of: http://www.oecd.org/dataoecd/0/52/1933638.pdf. "Decoupling occurs when the growth rate of an environmental pressure is less than that of its economic driving force (e.g. GDP) over a given period." Whether that is a truthful way to define 'decoupling' or not, they need to go much further to fix the definitions to fit continued growth with the need to limit climate change. They provide "absolute decoupling" and the expectation that that will soon occur. Absolute decoupling is needed for CO2 stabilization because CO2 in the atmosphere is largely accumulative, not recycling. The odd thing is that the climate scientists would seem to have accepted this exception to the 2nd law, since it's in their models and they frequently appear on the same stage with the advocates of the absolute decoupling idea. It means quickly separating economies from their principle energy source so atmospheric increases in CO2 end completely, even while industry and habitations double in size every 20 years. You guessed it, it's really just a plan to switch the economies to perpetual motion machines. All right there in the definitions...! This 1pg excerpt shows the 1000 year projection with absolute decoupling as a model assumption, taken from the lengthy and otherwise very thorough DEFRA report on "Defining and Identifying Environmental Limits for Sustainable Development". http://www.synapse9.com/issues/ClimateLags.pdf http://www.defra.gov.uk/science/project_data/DocumentLibrary/NR0102/NR01 02_4079_FRP.pdf An excellent condensed description of the IPCC climate models which all assume CO2 stabilization with continued economic growth: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPCC_Fourth_Assessment_Report#Model-based_p rojections_for_the_future Phil Henshaw ¸¸¸¸.·´ ¯ `·.¸¸¸¸ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 680 Ft. Washington Ave NY NY 10040 tel: 212-795-4844 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] explorations: www.synapse9.com ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org