Glen, from my 4th part, where I was talking about Feynman's saying and a 
difference between *our makes* and *creations of our 
Geniuses*, I thought that it was clear that two "me" are actually: me and my 
invisible Genius (or esoterically - ye, I know that you 
hate such stuff :-) But how about "The Matrix"? - speaking "Higher Self"). 
Sorry, it was some fuzzy-ness in my definitions but I 
think that it is an essential stuff in moving toward a clarification... 
--Mikhail

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: glen e. p. ropella
  To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
  Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 12:30 PM
  Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Friam Digest, Vol 61, Issue 16


  Nicholas Thompson wrote:
  > So, either the self is material,
  >
  > Or, "in" is understood in some way other than that it occupies a
  > container.

  Yes, by "inner self", I was talking about Mikhail's latter "me".

  Mikhail Gorelkin wrote:
  > [second me] is the product of thinking of the first one (me as I
  > think about me)

  So, I do not intend "inner" to mean "inside a container".  I mean
  "inner" in the sense of the mental constructs we build when thinking
  about our selves. A model of our selves as viewed from within.

  Both "me"s are part of the self, which is exactly the point I was trying
  to argue with Mikhail, neither the physical self nor this endo-self are
  less real than the other.

  -- 
  glen e. p. ropella, 971-219-3846, http://tempusdictum.com


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