Wholeheartedly agree on a return to applied complexity.
I also like the idea of appropriate philosophy in appropriate doses. I'll be
joining in your Wittgenstein & Math challenge.

-- Robert

On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Owen Densmore <o...@backspaces.net> wrote:

> <snips>

Lets not fret.  I'll filter better in the future.  But I *really* do not
> want to loose our focus on applied complexity.
> <snip>
> I note my challenge on the two VSI books (Math, Wittgenstein) was ignored.
>  Like the Cauchy Sequence http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cauchy_sequence which
> bridges the discrete and continuous, this bridges the math/philosophy gap by
> exposing one fine mathematician's use of philosophy to lay the basis for his
> abstract approach.
>
>    -- Owen
>
>
> On Jul 12, 2009, at 2:06 PM, Nicholas Thompson wrote:
>
>  Owen,
>>
>> well, some of the discussion HAS been off list. Which demonstrates some of
>> the peril of that strategy, which is that you now don't have access to
>> parts of the argument.
>>
>> But way do you want it out of sight?  What are you protecting and from
>> what
>> evil?   There is something faintly ..... puritanical ... about your
>> position.  As if a bumptious conversation about ideas was ... like public
>> nakedness. .  Just avert your eyes!
>>
>> Finally, one last ad hominem:  It seems to be that some of the people most
>> frustrated by this discussion are themselves EXTREMELY thoughtful and
>> reflective people.  the kind of people who watch ted videos and stuff.
>> Is
>> it that we are TEMPTING you to waste your time?
>>
>> My reason for keep some of these conversations on this list is that (1) I
>> keep hearing from new people with interesting opinions and (2) I keep
>> hoping that you folks who understand computers will contribute from that
>> knowledge to such questions as how computers are designed to gather and
>> make use of knowledge about themselves.
>>
>>
>> Nick
>>
>
>
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