Cool beans! (not the Java kind) Here in Italy, everyone is waiting for the Complex to come up with the next paradigm for urban data management... Santa Fe carries quite a cachet... I look forward to a simple, elegant Occamesque solution that will revolutionize my world of urban and environmental management and planning. The mother of all platforms. The paradigm to end all paradigms. Urban Data Agents and Pipes...
Meanwhile, I will enjoy the Redentore festival here tonight, celebrating the end of the plague of 1575... Obviously people remember BAD things much longer than the good stuff... Ciao Fabio ------------------------------------------ Fabio Carrera, Ph.D. WWW<http://www.wpi.edu/~carrera> | Blog<http://venice2point0.blogspot.com/> | Wiki<http://venipedia.org/> | Fb<http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=29105207&ref=name> | Tw<http://twitter.com/fabiocarrera> | Wh?<http://www.dopplr.com/traveller/FabioCarrera/public> US Cell: +1(508) 615-5333 | US Off: +1(508) 831-6059 (until Jul.9) IT Cell: +39 335-581-5292 | IT Off: +39 041-523-3209 (Jul.11- Aug. 6) Skype: carrerawpi [in MA<http://www.wpi.edu/~carrera> until July 9, then in Venice<http://http/www.venice2point0.org/> until Aug. 6, then back in Santa Fe<http://sfcomplex.org/adobewiki/index.php?title=WPI:Santa_Fe_Project_Center> around Aug. 12... then where?<http://www.dopplr.com/traveller/FabioCarrera/public/planned_trips>] >>> V e n i c e A n n i v e r s a r y W e b S i t >>> e<http://venice2point0.org/> <<< -----Original Message----- From: discuss-boun...@lists.sfcomplex.org [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.sfcomplex.org] On Behalf Of Owen Densmore Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 6:25 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Cc: General topics & issues Subject: [sfx: Discuss] Re: [FRIAM] JavaScript ecology Sweet! I did fail to describe what motivated the conversation to begin with: writing sophisticated client/server/peer applications in team programming projects. Ones you write both the client, server and communication code. Not "pick a CMS and use it". Something big. And new. And who's "Hello World" really could span the globe. And one who's deployment was *really* simple .. in this case one URL. Most of us do not do this sort of thing. We build a core technology project for a minimum of 5 years in a solid language: C/C++/Java/... Or we build shorter projects like web sites using a CMS, mainly server side, matching our skills or our client requirements, hopefully both. But when you really have to do something new as Steve and I did recently which mixed Google App Engine, Google Data Store, Google Maps, team SVN usage, JavaScript, XML/Ajax, Python, lat/lng to/from street addresses, HTML/CSS, DOM parsing, Cloud computing, ... you start to re-think your options. One huge and humbling surprise: how difficult it is to use two different languages (Python and Javascript) in equal measure on a single project. I had prided myself on being able to use a lot of different languages .. but I never did so on one project. This is important for the sfComplex, where we are striving to build a project space, doing many sophisticated team projects blending science, tech, visualization, client/server/peer computing. This is harder than we had thought. Hence the interest in a way to simplify, yet remain sophisticated. May fail, due to all the below. But maybe not. -- Owen On Jul 17, 2009, at 10:04 PM, Douglas Roberts wrote: > Ooh! My kind of a comment. Gloomy, pessimistic, dark. > > I like it! > > On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 9:54 PM, Dale Schumacher <dale.schumac...@gmail.com > > wrote: > Build not your house on sand. > > Regrettably, I fear it is far too late for that advice. > > As Crockford himself writes, there were a lot of poor implementation > decisions made in the design of JavaScript. And there are a lot of > people who've written code that relies on what he called the "Awful > Parts" and the "Bad Parts". > > JavaScript and its derivatives are certainly important, and increasing > popular, technologies. And it's ubiquitous availability has > definitely led me to use it, for web design, but also for prototyping > other ideas. Ultimately, I expect, its design flaws will lead to a > collapse, forcing us to move on to yet another platform. > > Enjoy the ride. > > On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 6:13 PM, Owen Densmore<o...@backspaces.net> > wrote: > > At Friam today we discussed the latest buzz about javascript and > it's > > renaissance in the computing world. > --- lots of excellent information removed. see the original thread for > details --- _______________________________________________ Discuss mailing list disc...@lists.sfcomplex.org http://lists.sfcomplex.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss http://www.nabble.com/sfComplex-Discuss-f33403.html
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