On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 03:29:20PM -0700, Russ Abbott wrote:
> I guess you too Glenn.
> 
> It seems to have become fashionable to act disparagingly toward the notion
> of "real." What do you intend to substitute for it?
> 
> -- Russ
> 
> 

I too, am in the camp that cannot fathom what "real" could possibly
mean. For me, science is about studying phenomenological consistency -
we cannot live in any old world, we cannot, for instance, live in a
world incompatible with our presence in that world, ie the Anthropic
Principle.

But just because phenomenology is consistent, does not make it
real. There is no ontological commitment here. In fact, I tend to
believe that other phenomenologically consistent worlds that are
inconsistent with our own also exist "out there" in the same sense as
our own. The total sum of which adds up to nothing (in a resultant
sense), which requires little, if any ontological commitment.

I have no problem studying our own patch of phenomenology. It means
something to us, even if the in global scheme of things (if there
could be such a viewpoint), it is fundamentally absurd.

And if Glen can make a plug, then I can too. The above is discussed in
considerable more detail in my book "Theory of Nothing", which of
course is already known to the list.


Cheers
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