Yes, Carl, black widows are widespread this year, lots downtown. For
all you folks who frequent The Complex know that there are several
webs around the steps on both sides of the building. The last time I
was there I noticed one had made its web INSIDE the front door. Roy if
you are reading this please go step on it!
I am concerned about the brown recluse, especially when the kids are
playing hide and seek. Good to know you've only seen three.
Alison
On Oct 11, 2010, at 12:57 PM, Carl Tollander wrote:
One should mention that in 13 years living here I've only seen 3
recluses, and those not in the same year.
Black Widows, however, are a commodity item. Fortunately they're
more brazen and thus much easier to avoid.
On 10/11/10 12:16 PM, Nicholas Thompson wrote:
Pamela,
I stand corrected and warned.
Given that the Hospital here is such a mixed bag, I wonder if the
collective wisdom of this list might produce a “spider bite center”
in the country which one could call into if needed. I am terrified
for the children. What did the healer do? Does your techie still
have his hand? I found the loving descriptions of progressive
necrosis on the web particularly alarming.
Nick
From: friam-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com]
On Behalf Of Pamela McCorduck
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 11:02 AM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Name this spider
One of my computer techies was bitten by a brown recluse in El
Dorado. All the rest is true--no help from the hospital, a wound
that grew and grew. Finally he found a local folk healer who
helped. He was very skeptical but by then desperate. I've been
banging my open hand first against anything I needed to probe into,
from the wires behind my computer (which is where his was lurking)
to the woodpile, to... They are shy and would rather run away, but
if startled, will bite.
On Oct 11, 2010, at 12:23 PM, Nicholas Thompson wrote:
Carl, it never occurred to me to confide in my spiders. I will
reconsider that policy on your recommendation.
According to my books, the brown recluse doesn’t make it beyond the
100th meridian (blood or otherwise). She has a local cousin,
“desert recluse” or some such whose bite is not a problem.
What I learned from the brief reading on the I-net and elsewhere is
that there are no medical miracles to deal with these bites. I had
always assumed I would rush down to St. Vincents, and if I got
there soon enough, they would give me a shot, and that would be the
end of it. Apparently not so. Particularly if children are bitten.
Nick
From: friam-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com]
On Behalf Of Carl Tollander
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 10:23 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Name this spider
Black Widows - Shiny long legs, hourglass on back - worry some, as
they can get agressive and the bites are persistently painful.
Ubiquitous and the big one's can be resilient against 2x4's. They
make more. Lots more.
Brown Recluse - All brown, hides in slight creases on a newspaper -
worry more due to cellular toxins.
Wolf - Short legs, big body - not so much worry, just don't mess
with it. They do bite, but they keep to themselves unless
molested. I call the one over my front door "Kong". From the
description, probably what you have.
Everything else, leave 'em be, they're beneficial, bites not fun
but not dangerous, probably. Good listeners.
On 10/8/10 7:59 PM, Robert J. Cordingley wrote:
Hoping there's someone on this list that knows something about
spiders in New Mexico... There were two of these hanging out just
on the outside of my house in Santa Fe. One had made a large
somewhat circular web about 2 ft across. At night it would sit in
the middle, during the day it would hide in a corner. You can get
an idea of the size from the tines of the dining fork. I think
they are big. I've not yet been successful in finding anything
online that seems to come any where close. Any ideas on what type
it is, should I be worried?
Let me know if you'd like a higher res. image.
Thanks,
Robert C
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