Jochen , Greetings and Ladies and Gentlemen as well, If I believe that the team has a spirit I seem to act differently. It may not have any at all but that does not change my belief and my behaviour. When I act out my delusion and find others that enjoy it as much as I, we seem to march down the field with lighter hearts. The people in the audience see this change in our appearance and attribute it to the Geist. We hear the cheers and we are further emboldened. And soon others join in the march. It seems so real to all of us that the Geist becomes Teamgeist. It has a name now perhaps a flag as well. Once it is named we believe it to be more real, for our grammar never gives names to the non existent or does it?
Egypt is a study in Mental Constructs and the Symbolic clashing with the Real. \It is as if the birds in the flock are aware of themselves as a group as never before. They see themselves, they communicate directly with each other , they see the group, they have a complete memory and understand the fact that some had exploited them in the past because of the former lack of coherence. There have always been individuals that felt they were entitled to be leaders and their role was to control others for their personal gains. The Tahrir protestors seem to be trying to assert themselves and liberate themselves from the domination of "the entitled to rule class of psychopaths". Can the Flock get a TeamGeist strong enough to eliminate it's oppressors? Bertrand Russell said that it was impossible for the rational to defeat the irrational, what was required was a new form of irrational more powerful than the present. I think he was implying that men must believe in something greater than their opposition, some kind of Faith of extraordinary strength was to lead them through the conflicts. I think Humanity is witnessing a new history unfold before our eyes. Vladimyr Ivan Burachynsky PhD vbur...@shaw.ca 120-1053 Beaverhill Blvd. Winnipeg,Manitoba, R2J3R2 Canada (204) 2548321 Land (204) 8016064 Cell -----Original Message----- From: friam-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Jochen Fromm Sent: February-10-11 3:50 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] A question for your Roboteers out there Interesting observation, yes I think what we call self aware exists in some form in a society, too. Everything which represents the society can lead to some form of self-awareness in the society, for example a sports team in a world cup or an army in a war which shows certain positive or desired attitudes. A kind of collective consciousness. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collective_consciousness A team, whether a sports team, an organization, or an army, can have a "team spirit" (in German "Teamgeist"). If the person which seems to embody this team spirit acts for the whole group in some form of competition or election, this can lead to some kind of self-awareness, if the actions are discussed or celebrated afterwards. If the people of a country start to discuss their own president (see Egypt), the society becomes aware of itself to a certain degree. Don't you think? Self-awareness is a bit like a controversial election after a revolution: an elation accompanied by obfuscation, a kind of entrancement which causes puzzlement. Or is it? -J. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vladimyr Burachynsky" <vbur...@shaw.ca> To: "'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group'" <friam@redfish.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 11:06 PM Subject: Re: [FRIAM] A question for your Roboteers out there > > [..] It seems that to be what we call self aware it must exist in a > society and be able to also distinguish its thoughts from those of others. ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
