There is an example of what happens with unused energy on a very large
scale,

 

Namely Forest fires after years of suppression  rage with unbelievable
ferocity. In this case a failure on the biological level to recycle fast
enough results in a physical process almost beyond the biological .

In this case the biological system is almost punished or negatively rewarded
. This is interesting when one considers how closely coupled the two systems
become. Perhaps it is better to think in terms of a footrace of sorts.

No goal other than to stay ahead of disaster like surfing.

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From: friam-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf
Of Russ Abbott
Sent: April-26-11 12:51 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Stu on NPR.org > Even Evolution Evolves: Changing Ideas
On The Biosphere

 

More generally, virtually every new persistent mechanism (e.g., species)
will create new potential niches by the fact of its existence. This can be
seen by considering energy flows. Every persistent mechanism requires a way
to exploit energy resources in order to persist. No mechanism is 100%
efficient. So every persistent mechanism leaves in its wake some unused
energy--often in a form that didn't exist previously That unused energy is
then a niche that some other mechanism can exploit. To take Stu's example,
the unused energy is whatever it is that bacteria in fish bladder live on. 


 

-- Russ 





On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 9:54 AM, Vladimyr Burachynsky <vbur...@shaw.ca>
wrote:

And every time a species goes to extinction the former new but filled niches
vanish. 

Sounds a bit like a Steady state of musical chairs.

 

Unfortunately the word evolution supposes purpose or direction which it
seems steadfast to keep hidden.

 

 

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From: friam-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf
Of Stephen Guerin
Sent: April-26-11 9:48 AM
To: Friam Friam; disc...@sfcomplex.org
Subject: [FRIAM] Stu on NPR.org > Even Evolution Evolves: Changing Ideas On
The Biosphere

 

Stu on NPR.

http://m.npr.org/story/135706946?url=/blogs/13.7/2011/04/25/135706946/even-e
volution-evolves-changing-ideas-on-the-biosphere


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