My interest in Diaspora is with FRIAM and social networking.  We're
generally sophisticated enough to use this and we can help folks if it is
too complex for them.

I've been fairly casual about "public data" .. heck anyone can know my name
and address from the phone book! Tossing in photos OK.  Birthdays, no ..
that's used to identify people: name + bday. GeoLocation .. prefer not
unless granted by me in certain situations. Job history .. a bit tougher
because it disambiguates me from others of the same name.

My wish is that we had more useful authorization and
identification/authentication within G+ so that I could more narrowly
restrict personal data access.

With all the break-ins occurring over the last few years at major computing
institutions, even google, I've sorta resigned myself to having any data I
put into these organization .. who benefit by making it available/usable for
their own purposes such as targeted search .. being stolen by hackers.  I'm
less concerned about banks and credit cards, they generally do not use your
data for other purposes.

I guess I agree with Scott McNealy: you don't have any privacy, get used to
it!

   -- Owen

On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Jochen Fromm <j...@cas-group.net> wrote:

> Yes, Diaspora is interesting, and there are many who are
> very, very upset about Facebook. Maybe it is even better than
> Facebook and Google+: everybody has his own node and
> really owns his personal data, the different nodes are connected
> in a P2P style. A diaspora server is named a "pod".. You can
> host your own pod, or you can use a public one (like a WP
> blog server). This would really solve the scalability and the
> privacy problem, and the data would be stored where it belongs.
> I wrote about it here:
> http://4loc.wordpress.com/**2011/03/02/facebook-vs-**diaspora/<http://4loc.wordpress.com/2011/03/02/facebook-vs-diaspora/>
>
> Yet the dream for someone is the nightmare for someone else -
> real privacy would be a nightmare for government agencies and
> institutions, who would not be able to uncover criminal activities.
> The data collected by Microsoft, Facebook, Google and other
> Internet giants is easily accessible to them, because they are
> American corporations subject to federal law.
>
> The Diaspora approach is promising - and it is named like
> the Greg Egan SF novel ;-). Unfortunately, I guess it has no chance
> against the major Internet companies. Google will improve its
> service, and Facebook will respond with a similar circle feature
> soon. Google+ is an existential threat for them. Although there
> are still privacy concerns, I think Google+ is the lesser evil.
>
> -J.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: Owen Densmore
> To: Complexity Coffee Group
> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 3:02 AM
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Creating a Network Like Facebook,Only Private -
> NYTimes.com
>
>
> Whoa!  Here's the rest of the Kickstart story: http://goo.gl/PGkM
>
> They asked for 10K$.  How much did they come up with? $200K$!  Wow does the
> world hate FB's privacy policy!
>
> On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 6:52 PM, Owen Densmore <o...@backspaces.net>
> wrote:
>
> With the "diaspora" from Facebook to G+, comes this interesting story:
>      
> http://www.nytimes.com/2010/**05/12/nyregion/12about.html<http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/12/nyregion/12about.html>
> .. basically a group of hackers built a great alternative from Kickstarter.
>
>
>       -- Owen
>
>
>
>
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