thermal electrochemical corrosion of the electric input power heating resistor in the Rossi device: Rich Murray 2011.07.19 http://rmforall.blogspot.com/2011_07_01_archive.htm Tuesday, July 19, 2011 [ at end of each long page, click on Older Posts ] http://groups.yahoo.com/group/astrodeep/message/90 [ you may have to Copy and Paste URLs into your browser ]
https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?hl=en&shva=1#drafts/1311fbb2b67e473f [Vo]: Uppsala University Denies Rossi Research Agreement vorte...@eskimo.com discussion group from Rich Murray rmfor...@gmail.com to vorte...@eskimo.com, michael barron <mhbar...@gmail.com>, Rich Murray <rmfor...@gmail.com>, Rich Murray <rmfor...@comcast.net> date Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 10:21 PM subject Re: [Vo]:Uppsala University Denies Rossi Research Agreement mailed-by gmail.com 10:21 PM (1 minute ago) Thanks, Joshua Cude, for your clear, earnest interpretations. What is known about the heating resistor -- manufacturer, shape, mass, construction, electric conductors, insulating ceramics, exact dimensions, location within the device, exact descriptions of the electric power cables to it, exposure to water flow or H2 gas? What are the exact dimensions, shapes, and composition of the device, insulation, inlet, outlet, Pb shielding, Cu walls, stainless steel walls, Ni micropowder, etc.? I imagine that the catalyst is a real red herring, with no actual effects. I imagine that the resistor ceramic is susceptible to cracking from thermal stress due to uneven heating and cooling in space and time, expansion of the conductors with increasing electric power and resulting temperatures, and cooling at the resistor leads along the thick electrical conductors. These cracks open the devil's door within the witch's cauldron. The city water becomes rapidly more electrically conducting, as evaporation at hot spots concentrates ordinary minerals as dissolved ions, which readily plate out as ordinary boiler scale. The network of cracks evolves quickly, tending to grow as "trees" from each input electrode end to the other, as the 230 volt AC becomes applied across a smaller and smaller separation -- all of this, most likely, along the surface of the resistor, where layers of print and enamel will facilitate the initial cracking, where mineral ions from the input water flow will keep increasing in concentration and thus increase the electrical conductivity in complex positive feedback chaotic processes. The complex network of surface cracks causes the electrolysis of water into H2 and O2 as nano to micro bubbles, free to recombine or to combine with other chemicals anywhere in the water volume of the device. Recombination of H2 and O2 on the metal thermister or thermometer could release local heat that would give misleading readings. Meanwhile as temperature rises within the resistor, its metallic conductors will respond with increasing resistance, while at the same time the tree-like networks of conducting surface cracks are growing in overall fractal volume and closer to each other, increasing the effective available electric potential for their nano to micro scale growing tips -- so more and more of the applied electric power will be flowing into this network of rapidly growing, rapidly heating surface nano to micro cracks -- thus heating the frothing water and leading to complex hot flows of H2O gas, along with H2 and O2, which could result in higher temperature readings for a thermometer that happens to be in a hot spot in the device. This surface electrochemical corrosion scenario could explain the start of overall rise in measured water temperature with constant input electric power at the 60-70 deg C level -- the input heating resistor being "O ring" weak point in the Rossi device. Once conducting cracks directly link the two electrodes, shorting and arcing will explode the resistor, perhaps subverting the ability of the constant power electric supply to limit extreme transient flows, while also releasing chemical energy from complex chemical reactions, and also promply melting and disrupting the stainless steel container and its 50 gm Ni micropowder, catalyst, and absorbed H gas, creating explosive reactions among many chemicals. This scenario may also apply as a conventional explanation for many types of CF or LENR devices. However, claims of transmutations, isotopic shifts, and radiations have been made for similar processes in high voltage power cables. So, it is possible that electrochemical corrosion can perhaps create nano to micro scale reaction regions that sustain CF or LENR anomalies. self-organizing networks can develop simple test kits for metal isotope anomalies in 'water tree' corrosion of thin polyethylene films, re T Kumazawa 2005 -- 2008 Japan: Rich Murray 2011.06.03 http://rmforall.blogspot.com/2011_06_01_archive.htm Friday, June 3, 2011 [ at end of each long page, click on Older Posts ] http://groups.yahoo.com/group/astrodeep/message/86 [ you may have to Copy and Paste URLs into your browser ] reactive gas micro and nano bubbles complicate Widom-Larsen theory re electrolytic cells -- metal isotope anomalies in 'water tree' corrosion of power cable polyethylene insulation, T Kumazawa et al 2005 -- 2008 Japan: Rich Murray 2011.06.02 http://rmforall.blogspot.com/2011_06_01_archive.htm Thursday, June 2, 2011 [ at end of each long page, click on Older Posts ] http://groups.yahoo.com/group/astrodeep/message/85 [ you may have to Copy and Paste URLs into your browser ] It is essential to alert all experimenters as to the danger of explosions when massive input electric energy is applied to small, confined volumes. Both believers and skeptics have available here a plausible general scenario for conducting focused, effective research on the attainable objective of open-minded investigation of new phenomena in electrochemical corrosion. [ Disclaimer: My father, Christopher Anderson Murray, BS, was a corrosion chemical engineer for Pure Oil Company at Smith's Bluff Refinery in Port Neches, Texas, from 1943 to his sudden death at age 49 on August 4, 1962 ( Hi Dad, I hope you enjoy this...) ] ______________________________________________ Rich Murray, MA Boston University Graduate School 1967 psychology, BS MIT 1964, history and physics, 1943 Otowi Road, Santa Fe, New Mexico 87505 505-819-7388 rmfor...@gmail.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AstroDeep/messages http://RMForAll.blogspot.com new primary archive http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/messages group with 118 members, 1,625 posts in a public archive http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartame/messages group with 1226 members, 24,342 posts in a public archive http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rmforall/messages ______________________________________________ ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
