Hi Nick,

Yes, I like ideas of this kind, and there are many that I think are eligible and good.

To me, though, it is a chess game.

For every visible and consequential change, such as a rule change or a shift in orientation by a department or school, a lot of little foundation-building has to be done behind the scenes to address all the constraints and problems that have caused these changes _not_ to be adopted in the past. An adequate pawn structure has to bet set up before moves by the rooks or the queen are advantageous or even feasible. That low-level stuff often is not visible, but unless it is done to undermine the current pressures, the higher-level changes never become available or desirable to those who need to make the decisions.

I imagine a need to coordinate a kind of parallel assault, in which libraries refuse subscriptions to high-cost journals so they can allocate the funds to open-access fees (discussed earlier on this list; but that too requires foundation-building because how do we make articles available that currently live in those journals, and which researchers depend on); in which academics are willing to take a temporary hit to band behind Gowers and forego high-reward journals; in which government agencies such as NIH (with its mammoth size) hire computer programmers to do accounting on how much of the impact factor in the CVs of proposers comes from journals that are specifically in conflict with the agency's OA policy, and then require the program managers to make a big noise to their panels (their "study sections") to "ignore" high impact that conflicts with the agency's policy, and so forth. (This is like telling a jury to "ignore" inadmissible comments; of course they can't un-hear them, but by putting them on notice maybe it is a step in the right direction.)

These institutions are interlocking like railroad ballast, and I think understanding how to be _systematic_ about the problem of unlocking them is where much of the complexity lies that we don't understand well. But that makes it deserving of consideration as a science problem as well as a social goal.

All best,

Eric




On Apr 17, 2014, at 1:02 AM, Nick Thompson wrote:

Hi, Eric,

What if Professional Societies were to declare that nothing is "published" until it has been made available to the public. I might permit a reasonable handling fee, such as a nickel a page, making the downloading of a paper
roughly equivalent to the cost or Xeroxing it.   And then Universities
follow suit by declaring that nothing goes in your personnel file that has
not been "published".

Nick

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

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Hi Russell,

You know what would be a really useful datum, and which probably exists
though I haven't tried to look for such:

Some simple two-color plot or list of the impact factors of journals,
grouped according to whether their copyright agreements do or do not permit open access. One could complement that by computing various correlation
coefficients of impact factor with a dummy variable for open/not-open.

My suspicion, which one could start to try to test with such data, is that
this is not a question of what is the advantage in an overall sense to
having research open access, but rather is about the mechanics of where entrenched power lies, and how that places constraints on choices across the
system.

There have already been several discussions on this list (with useful
pointers to data) about why impact factors can be meaningless, or non-
comparable, or can have meanings that are far removed from the naive
advertisement, but none of that would be to my question here. My assumption is that, in the research institutional setting as I see it, everything is driven toward a boundary of as near pure thoughtlessness as the system can tolerate and still grind along, which means that what is rewarded is what accountants can accumulate at high volume, which means impact factors and
things like them.  If, even just for purely historical reasons, a high
fraction of high-impact-factor journals are held by publishers who refuse OA, then those journals have (for now) the power to force a trade- off by authors, between compliance with a grant regulation, and support by their universities for promotion/tenure, probably future grants where program managers or reviewers look at impact factor ratings without taking into account that they may be in direct conflict with the OA policy, for younger
researchers, hiring decisions in the first place, or start-up support,
teaching loads, etc.

If that is the main driver, then it should be purely a matter of the
combination of institutional design and getting coordination among enough players in the system to provide power sufficient to push back against the
effectively rent-power (a power inherent in existing
position) of Elsevier, Kluwer, Springer, or whomever.

Like so many other things that seem to fail, it just seems easier to get coordination in some kinds of systems (firms, markets) than in other kinds
of systems (academic communities, civil society), and the more-easily
organized tend to accumulate power advantages, which can sometimes become
extreme.

But some data and analysis would probably say whether there is any substance
in the above guesses.

Eric


On Apr 16, 2014, at 7:53 PM, Russell Standish wrote:

The question I have is what advantage is there in not having your
research work open access?

Given it is such a pain to download a non-open access paper, the open
access papers percolate to the top of my reading list.

The only answers I can think of

- publishing open access is more expensive (publishers often offer an
open access option for more dollars),

- prestigious journals prevent archiving of papers in arXiv or other
repositories,

- its a fag to upload your paper to arXiv or your institution archive


In my case, uploading my publications to arXiv and linked from my
website is my default option. I will usually amend any copyright
transfer agreement to allow this, if not already allowed. It's a right PITA when the publisher doesn't accept my amendment, as I then need to
remember that that paper is a special exception :(

Cheers
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