Marcus writes:
...
The consequences of their interventions in physical systems is not
necessarily their primary concern, especially if they have reason to think
there is manageable short-term risk.   And what better way to keep an
organization intact than to cause and fix the same problems!

So my claim it is these other agendas amplify bad consequences, not that we
ultimately act in ignorance.   Anyone that doesn't act in ignorance is
dealing with a trivial system.
I agree... "these other agendas" are what I attribute to what *appears* to me to be "willful ignorance".

It is only/mainly when a small portion of a group are acting on "these other agendas" whilst the remainder of the group are kept in ignorance of the larger picture in favor of a convenient oversimplified understanding biased toward allowing said few to pursue said "other agendas" unimpeded.

If only our biggest problem was the ignorance intrinsic in non-trivial systems... I believe *that* is the fundamental currency of life itself, attempting to penetrate deeper into increasing predictive knowledge of larger and larger systems impinging on said life's domain.

In that vein, it is natural that grass-roots organizations, activists, average Joes and Janes would try to reduce *their* ignorance of the larger systems they are coupled with, whether it would be the source of their physical sustenance and shelter, or with the complex organizations (political, industrial, religions) that have significant control over those less abstract systems.


- Steve

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