I haven’t heard the terms “thin problems” and “thick problems.” Are these 
yours, Patrick? They’re wonderfully intuitive: if I hadn’t heard the terms 
before, I still knew what you meant. Thanks.

As for the techno-liberterians of Silicon Valley, it’s useless to remind them 
that they ride on a grand government investment of half a century ago, that 
none of them, individually, or collectively, would have made. But on this, I 
save my breath to cool my soup.

Pamela


On Dec 28, 2015, at 4:13 PM, Patrick Reilly <patrick.rei...@ipsociety.net> 
wrote:

> Well, the main point I have (unless Nick's psychoanalysis of my thinly 
> submitted aggressiveness is the real story) is that I believe that there are 
> thin problems and thick problems, and that solvers of thin problems are 
> overly regarded in Silicon Valley culture.    
> 
> Such captains of industry think that, if they could have coded Twitter, then 
> they know all that they need to to address any discoverable problem after a 
> day or two's investigation.  So the referenced article on the dilemma of 
> Physics will be a valuable reference for me in suggesting that some problems 
> are thick problems . . . and require extensive data-gathering.
> 
> And yes, I am tired of hearing from techno-Libertarians that all political 
> problems and privacy rights issues are easily solvable by merely limiting or 
> hobbling government action.  Particularly when IMHO there are currently 
> numerous private corporate entities that need to be better restrained and 
> regulated.
> 
> 
> 
> ---  Pat
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 10:35 PM, gepr <geprope...@gmail.com> wrote:
> FWIW, I'm very interested in your responses, being an ex-libertarian with 
> both marxist and observationalist friends.
> 
> On Dec 28, 2015 1:35 PM, "Patrick Reilly" <patrick.rei...@ipsociety.net> 
> wrote:
> >
> > I'm mainly worried that my educational session with Nick is boring everyone 
> > else.
> 
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