As to citizen lol yeah Pa is smart and has opinions. He also helped
practially invent the modern computer so that's also why I suspect he
thinks the rest of us are mere mortals.

The fancy Word thing though is That a Image is basically realy reely reeely
small coppy of you hard drive. It's basically ment to take kind of a
snapshot of the hard drive. and does so to save space. (Arconis for
instance does this)

Where as Hdclone as far as I know tries to make copy of the harddrive. So
as that what ever is there you get onto the new disk. It seems pretty good
at helping with freshstarts (awsome) and quite usable. It doesn't bother
trying to save space though. I've used a few times and couldn't get a
usb-drive to boot from what it created, but as far as I can tell all the
stuff was there.
As to Error I have no idea that's honestly more of an opinion kind of thing
possibly ie I don't know if it's your hard disks motovitator unit etc.


I hope that made things a more like clear as green tea rather than clearer
as mud.



On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 1:04 PM, Gillian Densmore <gil.densm...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> ForWhatIt'sWorth
> Nick I don't know if you're still following this thread or found a fix:
>
> ForWhatItWorth:
> There's a few shareware things that can do something like Arconis wich
> says to the hard drive that has issues lets makea photocoppy to start fresh.
> The anoying news is Windows(up to 10) is reely bad about not having a
> baked in back up and fresh clean start system I have no idea why.
>
> The Good news though is that I have used two: There's Macron(however it's
> spelled) reflect Xclone and a few others that work
> There's a article about shareware Windows Back Up and freshstarty kind of
> stuff at places like life hacker.com:
> http://lifehacker.com/5839753/the-best-disk-cloning-app-for-windows
>
> ForWhatIt'sWorth CaspersTimeMachine is free and works pretty well
> I've used hdclone one my (infamously problative Del)
> You can get it here I thought it was so cool that it was shareware with a
> free give this a tree hit go and have a backup kind of thing:
> https://www.miray.de/products/sat.hdclone.html
> It's free version while slow was good enough to make sure I didn't loose
> stuff (art, articles etc)
>
> I thought XMLDrive was a little awkward to use but worked and as far as I
> know you can use Hdclone and Macriums Reflect while using the the computer
> wich is handy.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 10:46 AM, Jack Stafurik <jwsmat...@earthlink.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Nick
>>
>> Actually, this is simple. I've done it several times. You need a drive
>> dock
>> (I have one) and the right software. I've used Acronis software, which
>> costs
>> about $20 - 40, but there may be free stuff available to do this on the
>> web.
>> You plug the drive dock with your new drive into a USB port, start the
>> software, and a few hours later replace your old drive with your new one.
>> All your software, files, and probably viruses and malware are right
>> there,
>> ready to go. However this may also transfer over any errors, etc. You can
>> run CHKDSK to find out if there are any disk errors you need worry about.
>> Also, there are free or trial versions of disk checking software you can
>> get
>> to test. I've used Hard Disk Sentinel.
>>
>> Alternatively, if you have your OS disks you can (maybe, with some
>> manufacturers) do a clean install on the new drive, download the OS
>> upgrades, copy over the files you want and reinstall the applications you
>> want. This is a pain, but gives you a cleaner, faster system without
>> worries
>> about errors, malware, etc.
>>
>> Good luck. I can lend you my drive dock if you want, and help you with the
>> transfer.
>>
>> Jack
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>> Hi, everybody,
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>>
>> A substantial family calamity occurred in Massachusetts on Friday, on the
>> same day that a technician who replaced my motherboard here warned me that
>> my hard drive is on its last legs.  I have a new hard drive sitting on my
>> desk from HP and HP will come install it, but under my circumstances I
>> cannot afford any break in my communication with My People in
>> Massachusetts.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Here is where I need your advice.  I keep being told that it is possible
>> to
>> make an "image" of one's hard drive.  I imagine this means, I pay a
>> hundred
>> bucks for a black box, I plug the black box into my computer, I let it
>> whir
>> for a night, and then there is a copy of my hard drive on the black box.
>> Then, when my present hard drive dies, I have HP replace it, I plug the
>> black box into the computer again, let it whir for another night, and
>> when I
>> wake up in the morning, resume my life exactly as it was.
>>
>>
>>
>> Is such a thing possible? Could it be done by a "citizen" (as Owen calls
>> us)
>> who is much distracted by other things. Can you recommend a particular
>> black
>> box.  One problem that DotFoil has suggested is that my old hard drive may
>> have errors on it, and that transferring an "image" (if such a thing is
>> possible) will transfer those errors, with possibly fatal consequences.
>> Should I perhaps run error correction software somewhere in that process.
>>
>>
>>
>> Please advise,
>>
>>
>>
>> Nick
>>
>>
>>
>> P.S.  Everybody's safe.
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>>
>>
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