Hey, Roger. Any ideas for how to recruit 18F for the Revolution? We need all the "inside disrupters" we can get!
On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 8:48 AM, Roger Critchlow <r...@elf.org> wrote: > I think you're overstating the hazard here. For ordinary people, with > ordinary management, attempting to complete an ordinary software project, > let them scrum and they'll do better than they will with an ordinary tyrant > micromanaging the project. If you have a heroic software problem and a > budget appropriate to the problem, then by all means bring in the big guns > and do trial by technical criticism. But even then, there are standards of > conduct that are understood to apply. Coming into the meetings like > Donald Trump would make for an edgier debate than you're talking about, no? > > -- rec -- > > On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 2:04 AM, Marcus Daniels <mar...@snoutfarm.com> > wrote: > >> Two groups that start with the premise that the whole (a team) is more >> than the sum of its parts and will FOREVER advocate social collaboration >> tools and behavioral guidelines ad nauseam to make sure that the social but >> otherwise ordinary team members will always be able to delay coherent >> technical planning, or (worse!) edgy debates where any proposition could be >> shown to be poorly motivated or false. >> >> >> >> *From:* Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] *On Behalf Of *Roger >> Critchlow >> *Sent:* Sunday, March 19, 2017 11:36 PM >> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group < >> friam@redfish.com> >> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] organizations >> >> >> >> I dunno, you think there's a connection between >> diversity/intersectionality and agile design? They always harp on hearing >> the quiet voice that's telling the important truth. Seems like agile's >> main point is that the clients really want something much simpler than they >> can be talked into, but you have to convince all the coders that that is >> true, or else they'll build, or fail to build, something much more >> complicated than necessary. So you organize as a team of lemmings and >> crowd source the design to death. >> >> >> >> When life gives you lemmings, scrum. (Life is usually going to give you >> lemmings.) >> >> >> >> -- rec -- >> >> >> >> On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 12:11 AM, Marcus Daniels <mar...@snoutfarm.com> >> wrote: >> >> “It's fun, too, to wander around github figuring out who 18F is, what >> they do, and why they might make an issue of how they want to work together >> with each other and their clients.” >> >> >> >> Heh. I think a bot generated their pages from a dictionary of agile-speak. >> >> >> >> Marcus >> >> >> ============================================================ >> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College >> to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >> FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove >> >> >> >> ============================================================ >> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College >> to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >> FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove >> > > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove > -- Merle Lefkoff, Ph.D. President, Center for Emergent Diplomacy emergentdiplomacy.org Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA Visiting Professor in Integrative Peacebuilding Saint Paul University Ottawa, Ontario, Canada merlelefk...@gmail.com <merlelef...@gmail.com> mobile: (303) 859-5609 skype: merle.lelfkoff2
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