Nick!
Thanks for sharing your status and good news (well, relatively?). I'm
glad Dean had the forwardness to ask the "obvious question".
Keep up the recovery!
- Steve
On 7/27/17 11:01 PM, Nick Thompson wrote:
Thanks for your concern, Dean. Don’t have a heart attack in Maine in
the summer, if you can avoid it. Apparently, Maine beds are full of
vacationing stock-brokers from NYC Took a week from the day of the
attack, lying about in hospital beds, to find a surgical bed at the I
begged to be ambulanced to Massachusetts at my own expense, but
apparently there was a shortage of ambulances willing to go out of
state, and nobody would guarantee the stability of my heart in an
ordinary vehicle. If I had been a live lobster, I could have been in
Boston in six hours. Anyway, bypass ten days ago, driven back to MA
three days ago by my son and wife, doing rehab at my house for the
moment.
Funny stories to tell. You know how they tell you might have
hallucinations as your body sheds the anesthetic. Boy Howdy! I never
knew I had the makings of a modernist painter.
Everybody extraordinarily kind. One day, I decided to count the
number of different professionals who came into my room to do this and
that in a single day and gave up at sixty. And remember I was
sleeping much of the day. Some really interesting, and all with
patience and humor. And I rarely saw the same person any two days
running. Such an extraordinary demonstration of the power of
coordination via computers.
Keep up your good work.
Faithfully yours,
Nicholas S. Thompson
01/29/1938
Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
<http://home.earthlink.net/%7Enickthompson/naturaldesigns/>
*From:*Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] *On Behalf Of *Dean Gerber
*Sent:* Thursday, July 27, 2017 12:39 AM
*To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
<friam@redfish.com>
*Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] the role of metaphor in scientific thought
Nick--
Are you OK? Many of us are concerned about each other over the
effects of age, and we are concerned about you. What does "laid up"
mean? Feel free to keep that private if you wish. But, we are concerned.
Best wishes,
Dean
On Wednesday, July 26, 2017, 11:17:04 PM CDT, Nick Thompson
<nickthomp...@earthlink.net <mailto:nickthomp...@earthlink.net>> wrote:
I loved it. metaphors or no.
I am laid up, right now, and so won’t have much to say for a bit.
Keep up the good work, you guys.
Nick
Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
<http://home.earthlink.net/%7Enickthompson/naturaldesigns/>
*From:*Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] *On Behalf Of *Frank
Wimberly
*Sent:* Monday, July 24, 2017 11:17 PM
*To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
<friam@redfish.com <mailto:friam@redfish.com>>
*Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] the role of metaphor in scientific thought
Thanks, Steve. The metaphor allusion was a not very humorous way to
make the pointer to my little book allegedly relevant. As Nick
pointed out, the title itself is a metaphor. The dictionary definition
of "legacy" mentions money or other posessions which are left in a
bequest. There are some phrases in the text which are unambiguously
metaphors.
I would be very interested in feedback about the book. Not because I
expect to improve it but just because... Nick says that his father,
a publisher, always said, "You should only become a writer if you
can't do anything else".
I think he was talking about earning prospects.
It's interesting that the Android mail editor won't let me punctuate
the quote correctly.
Frank Wimberly
Phone (505) 670-9918
On Jul 24, 2017 8:36 PM, "Steve" <sasm...@swcp.com
<mailto:sasm...@swcp.com>> wrote:
I just ordered my copy yesterday.
It IS conceivable that you avoided all use of literary metaphor.
In this very sentence I used at least 2 conceptual metaphors.
Nick might only acknowledge literary metaphors?
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jul 23, 2017, at 9:42 PM, "Frank Wimberly"
<wimber...@gmail.com <mailto:wimber...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> There have been no entries in the competition to find a metaphor
in this book:
>
>
https://www.amazon.com/New-Mexico-Legacy-Frank-Wimberly/dp/1548003360
>
> By the way, the title doesn't count.
>
> Frank
>
>
> Frank C. Wimberly
> 140 Calle Ojo Feliz
> Santa Fe, NM 87505
>
> wimber...@gmail.com <mailto:wimber...@gmail.com>
wimbe...@cal.berkeley.edu <mailto:wimbe...@cal.berkeley.edu>
> Phone: (505) 995-8715 Cell: (505) 670-9918
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com
<mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com>] On Behalf Of Vladimyr
> Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 4:02 PM
> To: 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group'
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] the role of metaphor in scientific thought
>
> Glen,
>
> I already use AutoHotKey Script to run Code in Maple Math and
Dump .txt vertex data embedded in Processing 3 code (some Java
offshoot) The autoHotKey assembles the hundreds of images and 3D
objects into ordered sets and then runs MovieMaker to produce
video .wmv, which you have seen already.
>
> It was my intention to convert the functional routines from
Maple directly into Processing and share that code widely.
> But few people other than web artists use Processing and it does
not seem able to run on a web site. I guess this is a general
problem or short coming.
>
> Processing graphics are fast and surprisingly good, better than
I am used to elsewhere.
> I will try and write the Processing version of the Maple guts
and get it out but it may take sometime and others will have to
install the Processing engine which is free but sort of clunky to
set up.
>
> There are a number of issues that all this cross talk introduces
such as while Processing does crank out 3D object files readily
accepted by 3D printers.
> But it handles colors strangely and seems unable to mix these
objects with solid primitives during object creation. A task
probably better suited to CAD packages.
>
> If this is done you will probably by amazed at all the useless
junk that pours out at the far end. Like my undergrads trying to
build a toboggan out of concrete.
>
> One issue I see is that the more removed the operator the less
incentive he will have to connect his actions to the distant outcome.
> There was a profound moment in my memory when you and Nick , I
think, dabbled with misinterpretation vs premature registration...
> I noticed that from the video I had a choice to imagine a
squiggly line, a worm, a leaf or a set of leaves with a flower if
I waited a bit longer. I thought of the process as a series of
unfolding Emergence events passing by very quickly and soon
forgotten when the last was accepted.
>
> Perhaps we jump through Metaphoric fiery rings till we think we
understand.
> Thank-you again for the suggestions.
> I worry a bit about keeping this process as easy and transparent
as possible, avoiding Python or Anaconda's.
> inSilico Ecology as an idea has startling possibilities. Energy
flow will make that possible I think. But just where do I start...Hmmm
>
> vladimyr
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com
<mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com>] On Behalf Of glen ?
> Sent: July-19-17 11:17 AM
> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] the role of metaphor in scientific thought
>
>
> If the forum expresses irritation, then we can take it offline.
Otherwise, I will treat them like I like to be treated ...
voyeurism can be a good thing. 8^)
>
> Rather than (or in addition to) using pseudo-random number
generators, do something like:
>
> 1) https://api.random.org/guidelines,
> 2) use other numbers, like the number of hits you get when you
google something (e.g. a source code function),
> 3) invoke a script engine and allow me to place some scripted
functions on a website that you import and execute,
> 4) pass along some subset of the functions you're using, perhaps
in pseudo-code, so that we can modify or suggest different ones
that you then incorporate.
>
> Of these (3) is the most interesting to me. But even (4) would
be cool.
>
>> On 07/18/2017 05:19 PM, Vladimyr wrote:
>> I intentionally left openings in the code that should allow
independent operators even AI to attempt to generate some
structures to prove that very few shapes are recognizable.
>> [...]
>> If you have any more suggestions on removing myself from the
process please advise. Perhaps directly so as not to clutter the
forum.
>> I will soon attempt to use random number generators.
>> [...]
>
> --
> ☣glen
>
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