Marcus - I believe that is the very same division. It was D when I was there, recently TSA before that which was a merger of A and TS before that I think!
To be fair it wasn't *all* *always* like that, but there was a strong over/undertone. I fled HPC (formerly CIC, formerly C) to evade the "over-funded" "big iron" mentality (after most of 20 years), thinking that a scrappier place would be more satisfying. It was "merely different". The Snake Oil came in *much* larger containers and I got in (mildly) hot water any number of times for calling "emperor's new clothes!" while in C/CIC/HPC. I started (1981) in AT (accelerator technology) and kept in touch with some of those folks for the 27 years I was there and saw the paradoxes that came with production/experimental environments vs the uber-computing/production world. I got to play with some interesting folks in the TLA domain along the way but I had a creepy feeling the whole time I was going to discover (with an SCI) something that would put me in the dilemma Ed Snowden ended up in.... I ducked a few projects because they looked like they might lead me to things I didn't want to know. I was in DC 1 week before 9/11 gazing at the planes flying into Reagan, making a sharp turn over Georgetown at low altitude, thinking "what if one of those failed to make that turn?" Reminiscences aRE Us! - Steve On 3/5/19 2:20 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > < My "elder" colleague was making a > good point in that new context where there was always a lot of "hype" > flying around (program managers selling it to sponsors and tech folks > selling it to program managers) and it appeared that every "new face" > was given a grace period, but after a few years if they hadn't > *consistently* kept their snake-oil fresh, they could be treated as > *stale* snake-oil salesmen. > > > That's a wonderful description of what is now called A division. > I stop my commentary there. ( > > Marcus > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > archives back to 2003: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com archives back to 2003: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove