Touche' APF-O standin McGuerin! I know that ole Doc Strangelove has been very quiet for some time.
Your Symposiarch would seem to be a good stand in for a D&D master and the threads on this list not unlike Zingale's aforementioned D&D campaigns. I do sense burps in the list myself (usually as a response to a quote of a post I haven't seen). Sometimes posts come in (mildly) out of order. With the archives at fingertip I never worry much about it, and to the extent FriAM is much more sport than anything I don't worry much anyway! I get the distinct impression that others experience a different sieve than I do, but perhaps not a much more ambitious one. I would accuse Nick of being the Maxwell Demon (more appropriately Daemon?) based on the description as trying to extract intellectual work. On 9/14/19 12:25 PM, Stephen Guerin wrote: > As we speak, Dr. Strangelove may be painting the image of the > Symposiarch (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symposium#Drinking) > regulating the flow. Or a kind of immanent Maxwellian Demon actively > operating the email gate so that intellectual work can be extracted. > Or as we're running on Majordomo listserv > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majordomo_(software)> I think the > acequia metaphor is best -- An all powerful Majordomo organizing > annual fatiga parties <http://bloodhound.tripod.com/aceqglos.html> to > remove the neo-darwinist logic clogging up the acequia > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acequia> ;-p > > Alas, we might employ Hanlon's Razor > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlon%27s_razor> to explain your lack > of observed traffic. It may be a failing FRIAM listserv running on the > back of a discount weary server we've been riding for 17+ plus years. > Before switching mid stream, I'd ask Glen, Russell, Owen, Marcus, > Josh, Frank and Gary to look at their email client history and see if > there's missing emails since August when compared to the archives > listed in the FRIAM signature <http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/>. If > there's a significant discrepancy, we can start tracking down the > cause. Email delivery has many other places in the chain that can > fail. If it's the server we can start looking for alternatives. FWIW, > I haven't seen a disruption on my gmail client. > > Somewhat related: if folks post with an email that they didn't > subscribe with, it automatically gets rejected. The listserv gets hit > with 100's of spam addresses a day that aren't in the subscriber list. > I stopped manually monitoring the rejection list 10 years ago. Many of > you have given me alternative email addresses to put on the whitelist > so you can post from different accounts. Email me offline if you want > to add one. > > - IAmWhoAm (AKA APF-O) > > On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 8:45 AM Nick Thompson > <nickthomp...@earthlink.net <mailto:nickthomp...@earthlink.net>> wrote: > > Frank, Dave, > > > > Well I AM tied up with relocation issues, so haven’t been paying > close attention, but … > > > > I just did a search in my inbox and there is nothing from FRIAM > from 24 August on. > > > > I have always understood that the Friam-Owner. is like the wine > pourer at a classical “symposium”, more or less watering the wine > to maintain the flow and quality of the conversation. He won’t > admit to it of course, but every once in a while He “shuts me off” > from friam when He thinks I have become too … agitated? I assume > He is also gently modulating your contributions in the same way, > as a beneficent god should. I don’t know how He gets the time to > do it, but nothing else could possibly explain the fact that > sometimes our emails just go missing for a while. So, I didn’t > get alarmed when I stopped receiving FRIAM correspondence in late > August. I just assumed that the All Powerful Friam-Owner was > giving me a rest. > > > > Thank you APF-O. We love you and worship you. > > > > Nick > > > > Ps. Let me know if you don’t get this message. (};-\) > > > > Nicholas S. Thompson > > Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology > > Clark University > > http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ > > > > *From:*Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com > <mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com>] *On Behalf Of *Frank Wimberly > *Sent:* Thursday, September 12, 2019 8:02 AM > *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group > <friam@redfish.com <mailto:friam@redfish.com>> > *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] query and observation > > > > Dave, > > > > The Friam list remains as you can see but is sort of a trickle. I > posted a couple of items about the Cooper/Colbert interview and > something I can't remember but they weren't up to the high > intellectual standard which engages you, Glen, Marcus, Nick, et > al. Glen did comment insightfully. Nick will be back in Santa Fe > soon; maybe the change in location will stimulate him. > > > > Frank > > ----------------------------------- > Frank Wimberly > > My memoir: > https://www.amazon.com/author/frankwimberly > > My scientific publications: > https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Frank_Wimberly2 > > Phone (505) 670-9918 > > > > On Thu, Sep 12, 2019, 12:42 AM Prof David West > <profw...@fastmail.fm <mailto:profw...@fastmail.fm>> wrote: > > Hello All, > > Traffic on the FRIAM list seems to have ground to a halt, from > my reception point in Amsterdam - i.e. I have seen nothing for > some time. Not in spam filter, so question is has the list > trickled to a stop or just not making it across the Atlantic.? > > Observation: an interesting coincidence arising from reading a > new book, The Case Against Reality, How evolution hid the > truth from our eyes, by Donald D. Hoffman, professor of > cognitive science at UC Irvine. Main thesis is that what we > perceive is but a constructed, via evolution, "interface" and > not a veridical perception of "Reality." > > Not a new idea but the evolution / survival / fittest being > the ones that see the optimal interface instead of what is > behind the interface is interesting. > > Coincidence comes from simultaneously rereading Heidegger and > Gadamer, and even some Peirce, and seeing apparent parallels > between "interface,: "interpretation," and "experience." > Feels like a lot of Nick's Monism convictions might be > illuminated by looking at these works in juxtaposition. > > dave west > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > to unsubscribe > http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > archives back to 2003: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove > > > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > archives back to 2003: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove
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