I don’t remember.  Perhaps the most horrifying part of the experience was that 
the fly didn’t seem miserable.  It just went it’s busy-ness without wings.  

 

n

 

Nicholas Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology

Clark University

 <mailto:thompnicks...@gmail.com> thompnicks...@gmail.com

 <https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/> 
https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/

 

 

From: Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com> On Behalf Of Frank Wimberly
Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2020 2:56 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam@redfish.com>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] more Epstein fallout

 

Did you put the dewinged Greenhead out of its misery?

-----------------------------------
Frank Wimberly



Phone (505) 670-9918

 

On Sun, Jan 12, 2020, 2:53 PM <thompnicks...@gmail.com 
<mailto:thompnicks...@gmail.com> > wrote:

So, the logic seems right.

 

But … just to take the Epstein case … doesn’t that presume that abusing women 
feels good?  

 

I just have never see how that works,  

 

In the marshland around where grew up, there were these enormous flies, with 
beaklike mouthparts for biting…Greenheads, they were called.  They used to come 
into our barn at night, and then congregate on the inside of the windows during 
the day, frantic to get out.  I once caught one and took its wings off to see 
what would happen.  I never did it again.  It didn’t feel good.  

 

So, either having great power over people changes the nature of what feels 
good, OR, there are some people for whom making others feel bad makes them feel 
good. I would say that these latter folks need to be quarantined.  And if 
keeping people from becoming wealthy is prophylactic, I say tax the daylights 
out of the rich.  

 

Nick 

 

 

Nicholas Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology

Clark University

 <mailto:thompnicks...@gmail.com> thompnicks...@gmail.com

 <https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/> 
https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/

 

 

From: Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com <mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com> > On 
Behalf Of Marcus Daniels
Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2020 11:54 AM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam@redfish.com 
<mailto:friam@redfish.com> >
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] more Epstein fallout

 

Nick writes: 

 

“Why does the potentiality entail the desire? 

 I can plunge a dinner fork into the back of my hand, right now.  

 Surely, you don’t expect me to do so, just because I can.”

 

The premise is that people do things that feel good, and things that are 
apparently free from negative consequences.

Neither would be true with this use of a dinner fork.   It might feel good to 
plunge the dinner fork into the hand of an impolite dinner guest.   Whether 
that would be free of consequences would depend on the relative quality of your 
respective lawyers and the physical strength of your guest.  

 

Marcus

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