Yup, define.. Disgustingness = Authority / Fairness
..and that's my point. That said, there are plenty of liberals who favor their own circle of friends and have their own echo chambers. The fear of loss of order mentioned in that article is pretty much one-to-one with authority. Bill Barr doesn't care about families without fathers, or other elements of social conservatism, it is just hot air in service of having men like him in positions of power. Perhaps with suitable units, this would all be tautological from dimensional analysis! Marcus ________________________________ From: Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com> on behalf of Steven A Smith <sasm...@swcp.com> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2020 12:41 PM To: friam@redfish.com <friam@redfish.com> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] on stupidity Marcus - < I tend to agree with your intuition that something that seems egregiously "stupid" might well simply be registered in a different basis space... or more aptly "a different value system". > Indeed, like a provincial value system. One that optimizes for local interests in ignorance or indifference to interests of anyone else. Even if the magnitude of their eigenvalue is tiny by comparison. I think I am arguing for recognizing parochial (qualitative) as well as provincial (quantitative) scoping errors. [cid:part1.435DB8F8.AA6FFAD5@swcp.com] This article<http://www.ethicsdefined.org/the-problem-with-morality/conservatives-vs-liberals/> is not the precise argument I am looking for, but it does generally reflect one that I encountered a few years ago which I think suggested that not only do Conservatives hold Authority/Ingroup/Purity *higher* than Fairness and a very close 2nd,3rd,4th to Harm, but that they tend to experience Authority/Ingroup/Purity as something more like Loyalty/Honor. Both this article and the line of argument I can't precisely remember/find seemed to suggest that Liberals ethics were *simpler* than Conservatives which I think is vaguely specious? [http://www.ethicsdefined.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Lib_VS_Cons.png]<http://www.ethicsdefined.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Lib_VS_Cons.png> http://www.ethicsdefined.org/the-problem-with-morality/conservatives-vs-liberals/ - Steve
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