Genghis did not "stay home" to procreate. He traveled with his armies, conquered other tribes / peoples; then married the daughters of the leaders of those he conquered. Marriage and children provided the political glue that held his empire together — including appointing his daughters as governors instead of sons.
My only assertion was that the Khan's genes spread via marriage - not wholesale rape. Of course, the politically correct sensibility of today would characterize any marital relations under the umbrella of arranged / political marriage is by definition rape. davew On Sat, May 2, 2020, at 9:57 PM, Steven A Smith wrote: > > On 5/2/20 8:39 PM, Prof David West wrote: >> Genghis spread his genes via wives and concubines, not rapine. He also >> installed daughters and wives as regional governors instead of sons. >> Interesting historical figure. > So Genghis stayed back home and procreated while he sent the boys out into > the field? And nobody got anyone pregnant while on the road? Or just Hooker's > Legionaires? > Hmmm.... curious. > > >> >> davew >> >> >> On Sat, May 2, 2020, at 8:00 PM, Steven A Smith wrote: >>> Dave - >>>> I once taught an honors course, with Father Smith at St. Thomas on the >>>> Anthropology and Theology of War. One of the prime forces behind war — >>>> since prehistory — had been nothing more than birth control. >>> Do you meant literally *birth* and *control*, or rather *population* and >>> *reduction*? >>> The more literal usage works well too. Controlling Births. I think much >>> warfare culminates (or did before modernish times) in the victors killing >>> the men and raping/impregnating and enslaving the women either in-place, >>> inhabiting the conquered lands or taking them back to their homeland. >>> Children alternatively would have been killed or enslaved. Thus the genetic >>> heritage of Genghis Khan... >>> One step more sophisticated than the rats? >>> I don't think we have to go there, no matter how much the gun hoarders want >>> their chance at being unequivocally "on top" at least for one round of the >>> grande iterated prisoner's dilemma that is human civilization. >>> - Steve >>>>> Well, in a sense that’s correct. But their method of “birth control” >>>>> <https://www.researchgate.net/publication/238356686_A_Utopian_perspective_on_ecology_and_development> >>>>> is not one that I am prepared to take as a model. Just imagine the worst >>>>> sort of dystopian post apocalyptic novel. See the description of the >>>>> Calhoun experiment on p 224. >>>>> >>>>> Nick >>>>> >>>>> Nicholas Thompson >>>>> Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology >>>>> Clark University >>>>> thompnicks...@gmail.com >>>>> https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com> *On Behalf Of *Marcus Daniels >>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, May 2, 2020 12:15 PM >>>>> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group >>>>> <friam@redfish.com> >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] ill-conceived question >>>>> >>>>> < You recall that I invoked as a model that experiment in which 24 rats >>>>> were put in a quarter acre enclosure in Baltimore and fed and watered and >>>>> protected to see how the population would develop. They never got above >>>>> two hundred. > >>>>> >>>>> Maybe the rats were right? >>>>> * * >>>>> Marcus >>>>> .-. .- -. -.. --- -- -..-. -.. --- - ... -..-. .- -. -.. -..-. -.. .- ... >>>>> .... . ... >>>>> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >>>>> Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam >>>>> unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >>>>> archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ >>>>> FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> .-. .- -. -.. --- -- -..-. -.. --- - ... -..-. .- -. -.. -..-. -.. .- ... >>>> .... . ... FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ >>>> >>> .-. .- -. -.. --- -- -..-. -.. --- - ... -..-. .- -. -.. -..-. -.. .- ... >>> .... . ... >>> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >>> Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam >>> unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >>> archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ >>> FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ >>> >> >> >> .-. .- -. -.. --- -- -..-. -.. --- - ... -..-. .- -. -.. -..-. -.. .- ... >> .... . ... FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ >> > .-. .- -. -.. --- -- -..-. -.. --- - ... -..-. .- -. -.. -..-. -.. .- ... > .... . ... > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam > unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ >
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