I think the phenomenologists would claim that until you have realized that all 
worlds are only “inner worlds”, you haven’t properly interpreted the informal 
use of the word “world” into a philosophically serious frame.

Of course they are Continental Philosophers.  So one has the option to simply 
refuse to use any of the patterns or forms that they try to use consistently, 
and replace anything they say _in the way they say it_ with something else that 
oneself says _in some different way_, and then claim that when said in the 
different way, the point they were trying to make cannot be sensible, by 
construction.

I have on many occasions wondered what is the balance between rephrasing to get 
more angles on a question, versus rephrasing to insist on a scheme in which the 
question is unexpressible.  The former is an essential act of reason and 
discourse; the latter is a refusal to cooperate and a gambit to win a contest.  
For any given statement, are we sure that it can be assigned to one and not the 
other?

Eric



> On May 6, 2020, at 4:35 AM, thompnicks...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Hi,Glen,
> 
> Careful.  Isn't the formulation "inner world" entirely contradictory?  
> 
> N
> 
> Nicholas Thompson
> Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology
> Clark University
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com> On Behalf Of u?l? ?
> Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 12:50 PM
> To: FriAM <friam@redfish.com>
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> However, I think we can come up with a (maybe someday) testable hypothesis 
> based on hidden states. In principle, if EricC's principle is taken 
> seriously, the inner world of a black box device will be *completely* 
> represented on its surface (ala the holographic principle). Any information 
> not exhibited by a black box's *behavior* will be lost/random. 
> 
> This implies something about the compressibility and information content of 
> the black box's behavior, right? 
> 
> On 5/5/20 10:38 AM, Prof David West wrote:
>> This does not advance an argument against the possibility of a computer 
>> thinking — merely an assertion that "behavior" is not a valid basis upon 
>> which to argue that they do.
> 
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