Those passages were abundantly clear, as you predicted.   I have to admit, the 
whole argument feels casuistic, even though I agree with its conclusion.  

 

But I was (as I often am) interested in the METAPHOR implicit in the other 
rendition I read

 

“It happens in law that footprints of one concept fall in the territory of 
other but that does not mean that the former should be restricted.."[3] 
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rameshwari_Photocopy_Service_shop_copyright_case#cite_note-:0-3>
 

Do you have any idea what the writer had in mind?  I feel like there is some 
interesting thought there that I cannot quite grasp. 

 

Nicholas Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology

Clark University

 <mailto:thompnicks...@gmail.com> thompnicks...@gmail.com

 <https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/> 
https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/

 

 

From: Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com> On Behalf Of Sarbajit Roy
Sent: Sunday, July 5, 2020 2:33 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam@redfish.com>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Illegal copies of your book

 

Nick,
Let me only say, having some personal experience of the judge in question, that 
English is not the first, or even second, language of many superior court 
judges in India.

in my view, the original judgment under appeal is far better reading for its 
clarity of reasoning, especially paras 72 to 78
https://indiankanoon.org/doc/135895592/

rgds

Sarbajit

 

On Sun, Jul 5, 2020 at 10:39 PM <thompnicks...@gmail.com 
<mailto:thompnicks...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Sarbajit, 

 

Can you provide an exegesis of this wonderfully opaque passage from the 
judgement?

 

It happens in law that footprints of one concept fall in the territory of other 
but that does not mean that the former should be restricted.."[3] 
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rameshwari_Photocopy_Service_shop_copyright_case#cite_note-:0-3>
 

I suspect that this is a translation of some proverb which has richness not 
rendered in the translation.  

 

Nick 

 

Nicholas Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology

Clark University

 <mailto:thompnicks...@gmail.com> thompnicks...@gmail.com

 <https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/> 
https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/

 

 

From: Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com <mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com> > On 
Behalf Of Sarbajit Roy
Sent: Sunday, July 5, 2020 10:21 AM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam@redfish.com 
<mailto:friam@redfish.com> >
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Illegal copies of your book

 

Dear Gillian

It's not an unpopular opinion at all.


The High Court at New Delhi, India considered these issues and said it's 
perfectly legal for a teacher to PHOTOCOPY or REPRODUCE chapters of 
over-priced/unaffordable/expensive foreign textbooks for the benefit of their 
students, AND that no royalty is to be paid to the book publishers.

The exceptionally well reasoned decision was upheld by the Supreme Court of 
India after the book publishers withdrew their appeals.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rameshwari_Photocopy_Service_shop_copyright_case

So if you know anybody needing photocopies (2 cents per page of expensive books 
accessible to our vast library of PDFs and DJVUs, I would be happy to have them 
as my student ;-)

Sarbajit Roy

New Delhi, India

 

 

On Sun, Jul 5, 2020 at 7:24 AM Gillian Densmore <gil.densm...@gmail.com 
<mailto:gil.densm...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I'll put this out their as I suspect a unpopular opinion. It's be been my 
unfortunate experience teachers want ridiculously expensive specialty books. 
The most egregious was some prof for a management class that thought it'd be a 
good idea to drop 700 dollars on a book. Most of the class except some 
brown-noser agreed. He did EVENtUALLY relent to do case-studies inlue of the 
book. IMO I got more out of  reading and writing about actually cases of 
successful and unsuccessful management from real life than a 700 dollar book

When people wonder why books get pirated. That's probably why.

 

On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 6:03 PM Edward Angel <an...@cs.unm.edu 
<mailto:an...@cs.unm.edu> > wrote:

Yes. libgen is a mirror site for libgen.io <http://lingen.io>  that has 
everything on it. It gets taken down every once in a while. They lost a suit 
from the publishers but being located in Eastern Europe that doesn’t help. When 
I first went to the site, it asked me to turn off my add blocker so THEY could 
make some money. Then I looked at their donation tab and the only way to donate 
was via bitcoin or an Eastern European credit card.

 

Students tell me they all know about the site.

 

Ed

_______________________


Ed Angel

Founding Director, Art, Research, Technology and Science Laboratory (ARTS Lab)
Professor Emeritus of Computer Science, University of New Mexico

1017 Sierra Pinon

Santa Fe, NM 87501
505-984-0136 (home)   an...@cs.unm.edu <mailto:an...@cs.unm.edu> 

505-453-4944 (cell)  http://www.cs.unm.edu/~angel

 

On Jul 4, 2020, at 5:58 PM, Roger Frye <frye.ro...@gmail.com 
<mailto:frye.ro...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Ed,

FYI: The latest edition that I see on the Israeli version of the pirate site 
(libgen.is <http://libgen.is/> ) is the 7th.

-Roger

 

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