If a sitting president lost an election and did not concede to a peaceful transition of power, it stands to reason the transition is likely to be unpeaceful. If someone non-impotent like Bernie Sanders were, in effect, to incite the sort of people prone to that, I don't think the first thing I would do is wag my finger at him.
-----Original Message----- From: Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com> On Behalf Of u?l? ??? Sent: Friday, September 25, 2020 8:21 AM To: FriAM <friam@redfish.com> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] God in Science and Religion (was Re: why some people hate cops) Excellent! That answers it nicely. I just wasn't sure if that *was* the flag or if you were saying it didn't need a flag and merely using it to segue. Yes, there's some slippery ground around "protected classes", which is why the composition of the SCOTUS is so important. On 9/25/20 8:15 AM, Stephen Guerin wrote: > "Flagging" a post to me would have been a list admin email of the sort: > "In the judgment of the List Admin, this speech is considered hate speech > and will not be tolerated in this forum. This is a warning. Any posters that > use this type of language will be given a public warning and if their post > behavior continues they will be unsubscribed" > > I think my original post was clear. As list admin, I did not feel Marcus post > called for this type of action/flagging. I gave one reason that the risk of > inciting violence was near zero and my follow up post which you quote is I > also understand the sentiment behind Marcus's post. > > And then I concluded the "list admin" portion of my post as intellectually > wondering what constitutes hate speech. In my little corner of the world, > I've never had to make that determination as a manager or any other position > of authority. Nor have I been part of large enough organizations to sit > through seminars listen to this sort of expertise. I did find your EricC > reference interesting in this regard if a "majority" could be a protected > class. Relatedly, I came across this WaPO article > <https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/07/07/canadian-judge-punching-a-caucasian-and-yelling-i-hate-white-people-isnt-a-hate-crime/> > of a First Nation/Native woman yelled "I hate white people" and then punched > a lady in the nose and it was judged not a hate crime. > > I hope I was clear in the 2nd part of my post replying as a list member and > "religious" person to bring up what I wanted to talk about. -- ↙↙↙ uǝlƃ - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/
