Put the left brain aside. Make a half-dozen or so Ayahuasca sessions mandatory for anyone aspiring to, elected to, or appointed to any level of government position (including local DMV clerks) and sit back and observe the "ideal" form of government emerge. An argument could be made that the Athenian government arose, in significant part, from just such a process.
Jon will back me up on this as soon as he finishes Muraresku's book. davew On Wed, Oct 14, 2020, at 9:21 AM, uǝlƃ ↙↙↙ wrote: > So, along with the comments made about Roberts' memos and recognition > that the court is just as political as the other 3 branches (and the > implicit 4th), and hearkening back to the apparent capitalist > *requirement* of a permanent, but materially open, under class, what > concrete form could a Platonic Constitutional Representative Democracy > take? If not "text", then what? What expression(s) do we have to > enshrine in order to enshrine the abstract concepts being expressed? > > Maybe *multiple* expressions would approximate it better, a text, a > diagram/animation, and a mechanistic computation. (My principle is 3 > are required, 2 is inadequate, 1 is ridicule-worthy.) So if the > concept(s) to be enshrined are separation of powers into, say, 4 > branches of government, then from that conceptual constitution, we > write a text, draw a diagram, and build a simulation. Then those 3 > "documents" are held up as "the Constitution" ... "the law of the land". > > To my mind, that question *precedes* the causal inferencing (well-) > shone by Whitehouse. The extraction of an ephemeris from noise requires > some sort of prior model. We have to decide kindasorta what we're > looking for before we start willy-nilly inferring. (While relatively > agnostic inference algorithms like empirical mode decomposition are > always attractive, TANSTAAFL.) > > On 10/13/20 12:09 PM, David Eric Smith wrote: > > I don’t really know which thread to attach to, or where best to attach to > > it. > > > > But in a room I was in, Sheldon Whitehouse’s statement in the confirmation > > hearing was playing: > > https://www.facebook.com/derek.friday/videos/10102085065399760/ > > This seems to me where the conversation should be, (or at least this part > > of it). I would like the evening news better if they would include content > > of this kind. For cynics about politicians who want to cop-out and say “Ah, > > they’re all rats”, I would like to put this forward as an argument that > > there are plenty there to work with. > > > > Narrow questions that can be answered legalistically, but that refuse to > > address the big mechanisms of causation, seem to me to be pure > > distractions, and it irritates me that they get more than proportional > > time. Any meaning the narrow moves get is coming from these big causal > > contexts, and it is worth seeing a bit of the machinery by which they are > > organized. > > > -- > ↙↙↙ uǝlƃ > > - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam > un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/
