Nick, I think you should fine the perspective advanced here very congenial.
https://opendocs.github.io/sicp/sicp.pdf <https://opendocs.github.io/sicp/sicp.pdf> I know the people who code for a living will sigh and say “how quaint, what the guy who doesn’t know anything about this work thinks is our literature”. Granted. My younger colleagues, whose work I have forwarded to this list, have never read it and many have never heard of it. Yet for (I think) well more than a decade, it was a core standard at MIT. As an outsider who knows nothing, I find it a terrific introduction, and do not yet understand why anyone would recommend _against_ taking at least a little time to read within it. Eric > On Jan 27, 2021, at 12:56 PM, <thompnicks...@gmail.com> > <thompnicks...@gmail.com> wrote: > > This flies in the face of my belief that you coders know something about life > that we citizens need to know. I imagine coding to be like trying to write > an instruction to a person such that that person always does what you want > them to do. So, it is an act of communication in which the communicatee is > always right, no matter how idiotic may be it’s response. No boss ever says > to a coder, “Your code was brilliant but unfortunately the machine didn’t > understand you.” > > Am I right about any of that? > > Nick Thompson > thompnicks...@gmail.com <mailto:thompnicks...@gmail.com> > https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ > <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fwordpress.clarku.edu%2fnthompson%2f&c=E,1,kv82v2yL8r5CGmB5BAQaLVxej2ui8eapdbb1d7UumyfRpbBQ2nULD7JCl18N64cpdGnc9uMxoPxf9DBSsxuL-xoGNdbJpsUURVjSCO-B31ShbYdu8st2-cYi&typo=1> > > From: Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com <mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com>> On > Behalf Of Prof David West > Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 11:41 AM > To: friam@redfish.com <mailto:friam@redfish.com> > Subject: [FRIAM] coding versus music > > For a while now there has been a huge push to teach kids how to code. > Ostensibly because it enhances skills like language, logic, and math; plus, > "computer literacy" is essential in a world filled with computers. > > A study at MIT suggests that coding skill is orthogonal to reading skill and > has little, if any, influence on development of logic/math skills. > > An article in the Journal of Neuroscience argues that if you want to increase > the "skills and brainpower" of kids you should teach them music. > > I came across this information peripherally and have not read the specific > research reported on. I want the reports to be accurate representation of the > research because it confirms long held biases against the value of > "computational thinking" and computer science as a fundamental knowledge > domain. > > dave west > - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam > <http://bit.ly/virtualfriam> > un/subscribe > https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http%3a%2f%2fredfish.com%2fmailman%2flistinfo%2ffriam_redfish.com&c=E,1,WdmPLiRUGJbW-JBuK-YHkuuNGHFlm-Lh4Sb8PrLWZYoIMjhMKmQx_roCR3IINP1j84Ephv5Ey4kWVU-ytLraf2_Dn90VzeYh2jQOWP9uCQuIZWZyIFmSD7N4xQ,,&typo=1 > > <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http%3a%2f%2fredfish.com%2fmailman%2flistinfo%2ffriam_redfish.com&c=E,1,WdmPLiRUGJbW-JBuK-YHkuuNGHFlm-Lh4Sb8PrLWZYoIMjhMKmQx_roCR3IINP1j84Ephv5Ey4kWVU-ytLraf2_Dn90VzeYh2jQOWP9uCQuIZWZyIFmSD7N4xQ,,&typo=1> > FRIAM-COMIC > https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http%3a%2f%2ffriam-comic.blogspot.com%2f&c=E,1,-_O3b-v4BXiV9SgQVw6w74BH4FBGv3GnEfCGQQFNYFHuqSmG8hC6BK06m2Wi2zmJmlp8SLK0K5SoTwLS9SGpqsPJKm7VtW9pW8TlaCAWtpuR8A,,&typo=1 > > <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http%3a%2f%2ffriam-comic.blogspot.com%2f&c=E,1,-_O3b-v4BXiV9SgQVw6w74BH4FBGv3GnEfCGQQFNYFHuqSmG8hC6BK06m2Wi2zmJmlp8SLK0K5SoTwLS9SGpqsPJKm7VtW9pW8TlaCAWtpuR8A,,&typo=1> > archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ > <http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/>
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