Well, there's evil, and there's Evil. This thread, including RussA's implicit 
confirmation of Marcus' point about fora rigidity, dovetails nicely with the 
[ab|mis]use thread and Nick's trope about ancillary vs primary effects. The 
scammers, themselves not necessarily their children, are Evil ... but we can 
empathize if they're doing it because the world is a harsh and complex place. 
You gotta make money somehow. They're simply doing what we tell them they have 
to do.

Lurkers are opaque. Presumably, Google is a lurker on every clear text email 
you send through their platform, including this one. But I haven't really 
noticed any targeted marketing, perhaps because I use their IMAP interface, not 
the web interface? So even if they're using this content to profile and target 
people, it's merely little-e evil and I (perhaps falsely) understand why 
they're lurking. They're a for-profit business. It's a way to extract money. 
You gotta make money somehow. Google is simply doing what we tell them they 
have to do.

But individual lurkers are much harder to guess about. The opacity doesn't 
bother me, personally. It's none of my business what others think of me. 
(Similarly, to quote Fleetwood Mac, don't ask me what I think of you. I might 
not give the answer that you want me to.) But it does seem to be important to 
some. My advice is to treat this like a traditional medium. Each post is 
something you'd be willing to print out and nail to the telephone pole 
downtown. Any other conception seems like magical thinking.

On 1/28/21 2:18 PM, Jochen Fromm wrote:
> Of course it is criminal to do that. I used to think whenever something is 
> happening in nature it is either supper or pairing time. Now I tend to think 
> whenever something is happening it is something selfish. Or evil. There is so 
> much evil in this world, isn't it?

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