uǝlƃ wrote: I'd argue that any surviving bureaucracy works *most* of the time, 
almost by definition.

One scholar who has taken a serious look<https://arxiv.org/abs/0804.2202> at 
Parkinson’s Law is Stefan Thurner, a professor in Science of Complex Systems at 
the Medical University of Vienna. Thurner says he became interested in the 
concept when the faculty of medicine at the University of Vienna split into its 
own independent university in 2004. Within a couple years, he says, the Medical 
University of Vienna went from being run by 15 people to 100, while the number 
of scientists stayed about the same. “I wanted to understand what was going on 
there, and why my bureaucratic burden did not diminish – on the contrary it 
increased,” he says.

He happened to read Parkinson’s book around the same time and was inspired to 
turn it into a mathematical model that could be manipulated and tested, along 
with co-authors Peter Klimek and Rudolf Hanel. “Parkinson argued that if you 
have 6% growth rate of any administrative body, then sooner or later any 
company will die. They will have all their workforce in bureaucracy and none in 
production.



Parkinson pointed to two critical elements that lead to bureaucratisation – 
what he called the law of multiplication of subordinates, the tendency of 
managers to hire two or more subordinates to report to them so that neither is 
in direct competition with the manager themself; and the fact that bureaucrats 
create work for other bureaucrats.

https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20191107-the-law-that-explains-why-you-cant-get-anything-done

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That's a bold assertion. I'd argue that any surviving bureaucracy works *most* 
of the time, almost by definition. Of course, *new* bureaucracies probably fail 
most of the time. Then it would be important to be able to talk about 
bureaucratic novelty. E.g. the ACA (ObamaCare) was not a *new* bureacracy. And 
it didn't really fail. There were various stalls and hiccups. Now that that 
bureaucracy is up and running, it's "working" ... maybe not optimally. But 
optimality is persnickety.

In any case, only data would resolve the disagreement. And in order to gather 
data, you'd have to be explicit about measuring "work", as well as novelty and 
bureaucracy.

On 3/29/21 9:41 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
>
> Bureaucracies barely work most of the time.

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