A couple of facts that relate to some of the points raised.

I was following a car that had a bumper sticker that said, "Eat the Rich".

A man paid $50 million for a penthouse (5 story) in Manhattan.  He
committed suicide when he couldn't sell it for $35 million.  His wife
wanted to live where she could have horses.  If anyone cares i can tell you
who he was.

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On Tue, May 4, 2021, 3:42 PM uǝlƃ ↙↙↙ <geprope...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Yeah, I agree. But as the miscommunication about the dimension of
> simplices vs. orthogonal dimensionality seems to indicate, reduction need
> not imply linearity, and if reduction is used iteratively to discover
> interestingness, that provenance/method/algorithm need not be lost (1st
> order Markovian). A practical example might be
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Projection_pursuit
>
> Like abstraction <-> concretization, there's de-objectification that's
> part of a complete skill set. Competent objectifiers retain enough history
> to at least approximate the starting point.
>
> On 5/4/21 1:37 PM, jon zingale wrote:
> > """
> > Reduction is a triumph if it captures what you're looking for.
> > """
> >
> > When reductions capture what one is looking for then the resulting
> > categories
> > make for powerful rhetoric. IMO, it is exactly that reductions to crisp
> > objects
> > capture what *some* want, while obfuscating the desired objects of
> others,
> > that
> > makes the whole reduction-objectification game so insidious in practice
> (a
> > kind
> > of conceptual imperialism?). Sometimes objects can be presented with such
> > clarity
> > and precision that it becomes difficult to imagine any others, to
> dislodge
> > unproductive beliefs or practices, or to remember that the objects are
> > fantastic
> > shorthands.
>
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