Marcus, I don't understand your term "synthetic biology." On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 10:24 AM Marcus Daniels <[email protected]> wrote:
> So we move from chemical engineering to synthetic biology. There will > always be mistakes. > > > > *From:* Friam <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Merle Lefkoff > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 25, 2021 10:05 AM > *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group < > [email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Drones to detect wildfires > > > > Marcus, we've been "experimenting" with our terrestrial biome for at least > 10-12,000 years (when the first spade hit the ground). The time for more > experiments is over....unless they are experiments that help us understand > even more deeply how to restore the Mycelium networks so that the fungi can > solve our climate change challenge. This is perhaps the most important > task that will save us from extinction. See Merlin Sheldrake's book, > "Entangled Life" for explanation. > > > > On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 8:41 AM Marcus Daniels <[email protected]> > wrote: > > We won’t realize anything unless the experiments happen. We may not > learn from experiments, but that is a different issue than the need for the > experiments. > > > > *From:* Friam <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Steve Smith > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 25, 2021 7:46 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Drones to detect wildfires > > > > My father dedicated his life to "forest management" as a professional > forester, trained in biology and range/timber management. He retired > "early" after 30 years somewhat in disgust over the changing of aesthetics > and perspectives of the United States Forest Service. He was dedicated > and loyal to the spirit of Aldo Leopold and other early conservationists. > He spent multiple multi-week segments every summer leading (most Zuni and > Hopi native) fire-crews on the West Coast trying ot protec homes and > "valuable timber". We lived on the edge of the first Wilderness (Gila) > created (at the behest of Aldo Leopold) for 2/3 of my growing up years. > My father died 10 years ago (Alzheimers), was cremated, and we (illegall) > spread his cremains in the heart of the Gila with a minor amount of guilt > as he was a (nearly) strict rule follower (yet asked for this). Within > the year, a serious wildfire complex converged at almost the exact spot we > scattered him (woooOoooooo!). > > Even my Trump-voting (2016) sister and husband are now acknowledging that > his life/profession were dedicated to a project that was fundamentally > "unwise". They *were* (for the most part) doing the best they knew how. > Most everything they did (from stopping wildfires at the first opportunity) > to running dual bulldozers across landscapes with a chain between them to > clear the juniper trees from a landscape to allow more grass (for cattle) > to grow was "well intended", but it was *range* and *timber* management not > "grassland" and "forest" management as they called it. The goal was to > maximize the "productivity" of the public lands under their management > (dept of Agriculture_. The Bureau of Land Management (BLM dept of > Interior) was know to be *worse* in the sense that their rules on cattle > and mining were much less careful of protecting the landscape and biome. > The National Parks were derided by both the Forest Service and the BLM for > being "much too restrictive" (no "harvesting of resources"!!!!) > > And yet NOW we realize how "unwise" all of that was. But in the same > breath we suggest that all of our exploitative depradations of the planet's > "resources" are necessary and possibly "a really good thing"... and I am > sure that in another 20 or 50 years we will be lamenting *all* of the > things that today we are promoting wholeheartedly in the name of > "progress". > > This is part of how I became a neo-Luddite. > > - Steve > > On 5/25/21 2:50 AM, Pieter Steenekamp wrote: > > Let's hope they are a bit more wise in managing the wildfires in the > future than they were in the 20th century. > > > https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/sep/14/california-fire-suppression-forests-tinderbox > > Before this unprecedented era of mega-blazes on the US west coast, > California’s forests had a canny, ingenious way of avoiding destructive > worst-case forest fire scenarios. By periodically removing the grasses, > shrubs and young trees – known as the forest understory – California > <https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/california> avoided fires growing to > destructive intensities before the 20th century. The way this was done? > Fire. > > Every five to 15 years, groundfires would burn through the forest, killing > off the undergrowth on a regular basis, thus removing the material that can > act as tinder and kindle fires. Such groundfires were sparked by lightning > or by indigenous people who used sophisticated burning practices to > facilitate crop growing and hunting. Because the fires occurred frequently, > the understory rarely had time to build up enough combustible material for > the fires to reach the canopies of the mature trees – which is what causes > the large, devastating fires we are seeing now. As a result, overstory > trees might get wounded by the groundfires, but they would rarely get > killed. > > > > On Tue, 25 May 2021 at 10:22, Jochen Fromm <[email protected]> wrote: > > Due to climate change there will be more and more wildfires in California, > Arizona and New Mexico in the coming years. Drones could help to detect > wildfires early. > > > https://spectrum.ieee.org/tech-talk/sensors/remote-sensing/drones-sensors-wildfire-detection > > > > -J. > > > > - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam > un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ > > > > - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . > > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > > Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam > > un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > > archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ > > - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam > un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ > > > > > -- > > Merle Lefkoff, Ph.D. > Center for Emergent Diplomacy > emergentdiplomacy.org > > Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA > > > mobile: (303) 859-5609 > skype: merle.lelfkoff2 > > twitter: @merle110 > > > - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam > un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ > -- Merle Lefkoff, Ph.D. Center for Emergent Diplomacy emergentdiplomacy.org Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA mobile: (303) 859-5609 skype: merle.lelfkoff2 twitter: @merle110
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