Maybe I can steelman it, since I have so many personal relationships with 
anti-vax people. 

When I look around at the world, I see a clear difference between those people 
like me and those people who seem very different from me. Interacting with the 
people who are very different is stressful and time consuming. For example, 
explaining to my oncologist that it's very difficult for me to follow the diet 
she recommends, she being a very petite Asian, me being a 180 lb white dude who 
needs to be strong enough to pick up a 900 lb motorcycle when I drop it. Even 
beyond the cultural differences between us, there are blatant physiological and 
day-to-day context differences.

These tiny differences are easy to let roll off, unless someone chooses to dig 
in their heels and make a stink about it. When someone, particular an 
*authority* like my oncologist, digs in and makes a stink about some 
"suggestion" they make on how to live my life, I get irritated, which 
eventually grows into anger. I'm also reflective enough to know that her 
recommendation is Correct, True, right, proper. But when I reflect like that, I 
might become disappointed in myself, squeezing my fat in the mirror or 
whatever. So the anger can turn to insecure self criticism. Or it can simply 
seethe and fester into resentment and distancing from her *and* her kind. 
Neither is a good outcome.

This can go on for decades ... very smart people who I tend to trust, want to 
trust, lead to nothing but resentment or self criticism. Why would I continue 
to do that? Why continue to engage?

Then some distant "authority" comes to me with rhetoric that sounds very 
similar to that of my oncologist ... snooty, know-it-all, "advice" or 
"mandates" for what I should be doing in order to be a moral person. Well, 
screw them! Not only have I lived for decades as I am, without being a 
vegetarian, without being at some sort of "optimal weight", without taking 
Vitamins every day, etc. Not only that. But I also read things from fairly 
reputable sources that simply contradict what they're telling me! Maybe, rather 
than vegetarianism, I should eat more animal protein and less carbs to get my 
fat % down? Obviously, these authorities don't know everything.

The more they dig in, the more it pushes me to dig in. The more emphatically 
you are pro-vaccine, the more emphatically I become anti-vaccine. Reason and 
reasonableness leaves the building.


On 8/24/21 6:37 PM, Gillian Densmore wrote:
> What can possibly poses people to have a GD tantrum about vaccines.  The 
> cynical of me thinks it's basically a tantrum mixed with deranged and 
> dangerous levels of trolling. While the "Jedi" side er the small part wanting 
> to see the best of these GD raving lunatics. It's, frankly, baffled.
> The powers that be say put a GD mask on, and thank antivaxers.  What is 
> pissing me off and just straitup confusing the ever living *** me  is how 
> does this thinking work? Rejecting a compound that'll keep you healthy? For 
> me: I (literally) couldn't get in line fast enough! I think I broke my 
> caregiver who, I wanted to drive me their just in case. Meen while the other 
> extreme are these people having GD tantrum. It's like: here's something 
> that'll help you not get this virus,its free and you just need to get in a 
> line. The first thing they say is: omg! free? why that smacks of [something 
> they read someplace]. And ma freedoms
> 
> Can some please help me get just WTF these people are on, or how the hell 
> anything about how they think can possibly make any sense?


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