Puppies are adorable. From: Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com> On Behalf Of Frank Wimberly Sent: Thursday, September 9, 2021 4:33 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam@redfish.com> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] gen'fur
Down's babies are adorable. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Thu, Sep 9, 2021, 3:32 PM Marcus Daniels <mar...@snoutfarm.com<mailto:mar...@snoutfarm.com>> wrote: Or they are reprogramming their people to be smarter! (Actually, deCODE is owned by Amgen now.) Selection is already occurring, so it isn't as if this is some sci-fi thing. https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/12/the-last-children-of-down-syndrome/616928/ -----Original Message----- From: Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com<mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com>> On Behalf Of David Eric Smith Sent: Thursday, September 9, 2021 2:12 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam@redfish.com<mailto:friam@redfish.com>> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] gen'fur Aha! This is why Iceland has the highest per-capita fraction of published authors in the world. I had assumed it was the weather…. > On Sep 10, 2021, at 2:17 AM, Marcus Daniels > <mar...@snoutfarm.com<mailto:mar...@snoutfarm.com>> wrote: > > That can be screened as well with a large population-wide survey such has > been done in the UK or Iceland. > Of course, it is unlikely that complex behaviors will be governed by isolated > mutations, so the task is to look for highly predictive motifs (e.g. regular > expressions). > > -----Original Message----- > From: Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com<mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com>> On > Behalf Of u?l? ?>$ > Sent: Thursday, September 9, 2021 10:12 AM > To: friam@redfish.com<mailto:friam@redfish.com> > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] gen'fur > > Ha! Now you're trolling. The answer is: "because the sites that generate > reading ability (or whatever) *also* generate other 'abilities'", with > "abilities" in scare quotes because many abilities are considered bad ... > like the ability of a pimply faced white dude to shoot up a church or blow up > a federal building. > > In addition to polyphenism, there's robustness. If more than 1 site generates > the same functional ability (reading), then do we write them all? ... just > one of them? ... a probabilistically predictive handful of them? > > On 9/9/21 10:00 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: >> So find the sites that correspond to reading ability, or whatever, and WRITE >> them. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com<mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com>> On >> Behalf Of u?l? ?>$ >> Sent: Thursday, September 9, 2021 9:51 AM >> To: friam@redfish.com<mailto:friam@redfish.com> >> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] gen'fur >> >> I was alerted to this article this morning: >> >> Can Progressives Be Convinced That Genetics Matters? >> https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/09/13/can-progressives-be-con >> v >> inced-that-genetics-matters >> >> It should delight those amongst us who rant about the "woke". 8^D But it >> dovetails nicely with the fraught concept of equality in the other thread. >> >> Coincidentally, also on 9/6, the BIAPT announced their early career prize >> winner Emily McTernan: >> https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fwww.associationfo >> rpoliticalthought.ac.uk<http://rpoliticalthought.ac.uk>%2fbiapt-2021-early-care&c=E,1,Je9MVNdO8lpJQOd >> 6fZwUNe-4z5yuFq0upxNIzMBFjmLFh_h5a63ueVVpd8lkEdWeUx5Xx1RaoPg3T5Ph8YlG >> 0558qqHLZD8-DKeBPEC3YYM,&typo=1 >> er-prize-winner-dr-emily-mcternan/ >> >> "In her forthcoming monograph, Dr McTernan develops her work on social >> equality further, to advance a pioneering conceptual account – and robust >> normative defence – of the phenomenon of ‘taking offence’. Therein, McTernan >> contends, we should understand taking offence, under appropriate conditions, >> as a civic virtue rather than a vice, as an emotion that embodies the >> resistance of social inequalities within a community." >> >> >> On 9/8/21 8:06 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: >>> From about a cancer rate of 10% (without mutation) to 50% (with) but it >>> depends on the BRCA variant. >>> >>> https://www.cdc.gov/genomics/disease/breast_ovarian_cancer/breast_ca >>> n >>> c >>> er.htm >>> <https://www.cdc.gov/genomics/disease/breast_ovarian_cancer/breast_c >>> a >>> n >>> cer.htm> >>> >>>> On Sep 8, 2021, at 4:07 PM, Frank Wimberly >>>> <wimber...@gmail.com<mailto:wimber...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Is the Braca gene that little correlated with breast cancer? >>>> >>>> --- >>>> Frank C. Wimberly >>>> 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, >>>> Santa Fe, NM 87505 >>>> >>>> 505 670-9918 >>>> Santa Fe, NM >>>> >>>> On Wed, Sep 8, 2021, 4:57 PM Marcus Daniels >>>> <mar...@snoutfarm.com<mailto:mar...@snoutfarm.com> >>>> <mailto:mar...@snoutfarm.com<mailto:mar...@snoutfarm.com>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Yeah, it is hard to get excited about “unusual” variance. Modern >>>> classification algorithms like gradient boosting make it possible >>>> to predict phenotypes, and to me that is a lot more interesting >>>> (and still possible to deconstruct).____ >>>> >>>> __ __ >>>> >>>> *From:* Friam >>>> <friam-boun...@redfish.com<mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com> >>>> <mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com<mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com>>> *On >>>> Behalf Of *Eric Charles >>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 8, 2021 3:53 PM >>>> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group >>>> <friam@redfish.com<mailto:friam@redfish.com> >>>> <mailto:friam@redfish.com<mailto:friam@redfish.com>>> >>>> *Subject:* [FRIAM] gen'fur____ >>>> >>>> __ __ >>>> >>>> Gen'fur this, gen'fur that... and also the realities of biological >>>> complexity.... >>>> ____ > > > -- > ☤>$ uǝlƃ > > - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn > GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam<http://bit.ly/virtualfriam> un/subscribe > https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http%3a%2f%2fredfish.com%2fmailm > an%2flistinfo%2ffriam_redfish.com<http://2ffriam_redfish.com>&c=E,1,FPFi_67ujnnrrUOyVZjD6c00o8nWEI > O4Gu_OUZ38Xs0a4T1DpBLafuv5pm5dFXyTn0TNzdAVocwF8gtRDPmzb7JVGddtXnkEECc2 > -aktBmWhEO37popJvuU,&typo=1 FRIAM-COMIC > https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http%3a%2f%2ffriam-comic.blogspo > t.com<http://t.com>%2f&c=E,1,SPmpFtRyWXHhwMcsSEpp1zgPqM1KQtxc8co0IbsUvi9o0kA8VmjwtnE > XPudoWFLMKWwdnUCqKSUFH8BzGa0nXa82gZPDQEIUVAmMdypMGcKWSWpWbxvat48,&typo > =1 > archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ > - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn > GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam<http://bit.ly/virtualfriam> un/subscribe > https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http%3a%2f%2fredfish.com%2fmailm > an%2flistinfo%2ffriam_redfish.com<http://2ffriam_redfish.com>&c=E,1,W9oEutylN15wwGCuVJ528S5XnqUv-A > ZpOR90CyAWn2G7yZUfHbX1BQqxD2UtZz7aEThqPVVE-f0ONtyic2xGpdK3QQKVYq_r_nEd > ZtkusgQ6qD5NpP9Q&typo=1 FRIAM-COMIC > https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http%3a%2f%2ffriam-comic.blogspo > t.com<http://t.com>%2f&c=E,1,AEBUcyZDYn2y9X32uZJvn16-o7psychyRoyP64ZOwbD9AG0FNH7T3li > ipIm0OyXlIe08dbosFtyzSjGknGjEp9y7b7ustWDswfdrA9M_xM1W9MXDSu5DHF_VIA,,& > typo=1 > archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . 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