Yeah, I feel like we trash things we don't have good explanations for. Biology's done a nice job of steadily filling in gaps with real science, replacing any need for "morphic resonance". I guess this is one of the reasons I still want to read Goertzel's book: https://bookshop.org/books/evidence-for-psi-thirteen-empirical-research-reports/9780786478286
We've seen the same thing with the resurgence of "Lamarkian inheritance". On 11/8/21 11:35 AM, Prof David West wrote: > your second paragraph is a nice channeling of Rupert Sheldrake — minus the > morphogenesis. > > davew > > On Mon, Nov 8, 2021, at 12:17 PM, uǝlƃ ☤>$ wrote: >> Both your and SteveS' comments address scope/extent directly. Nick >> refuses to do that. I don't know why. >> >> If we allow for a spectrum of scope, we can say that the fast/small >> loops "within self" provide those images, sounds, emotions you >> experience in the deprivation tank. Even if they were programmed in, in >> part, by experiences outside the tank, they keep "ringing" (standing >> wave, persistent cycles) while in the tank. Like a tuned stringed >> instrument, properties of your body/brain facilitate some tones over >> others. If your body is grown over generations to "hold" some tones, >> then that could be the source of the Jungian archetypes that continue >> ringing under deprivation. And, arguably, those tones will ring longer >> and louder than more transient ones learned before going into the tank, >> that your body/brain aren't as effective/efficient at maintaining. >> >> Just outside the fast/small loops might be medium loops like dream >> journaling, meditation, or exercise. That may extend to family or >> regular contact with some things in the world. The SteveS' extended >> mind might extend out slow/large loops like *knowing* that you have >> your smartphone and can use Google at any given time, or *expecting* >> that a city you're arriving to for the first time will have things like >> overpasses and coffee shops, not only because your prior experiences >> have programmed that in, but because you know other humans, with >> similar bodies/brains (and archetypes) built those cities. >> >> Traveling to a completely foreign city like Pyongyang will expose >> "other" not-self in the same way trying to learn a new game or sport >> will expose "other" not-self. >> >> A discussion of self is meaningless without a discussion of scope. -- "Better to be slapped with the truth than kissed with a lie." ☤>$ uǝlƃ .-- .- -. - / .- -.-. - .. --- -. ..--.. / -.-. --- -. .--- ..- --. .- - . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn UTC-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ archives: 5/2017 thru present https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/