< I'm muddled in the middle, enjoying having friends who are much more experimental in those domains than I ever will be while also wincing at some of the self/other harm that seems to go with (at least the) illegal substances/activities as well as wincing at all the puritanical need to decide for others what their goals in life and risk envelopes while pursuing them should be. >
I just don't want there be any expectation that I wince, or that I help clean up the mess. When someone goes flying through their windshield and breaks their neck because they didn't wear a seatbelt, well, that's what happened. I don't want to hear their families whining about the cost of medical coverage, especially if those families are against things like the Affordable Care Act. Yup, there could be Fentanyl in a drug. If it could just be more reliably fatal. ________________________________ From: Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com> on behalf of Steve Smith <sasm...@swcp.com> Sent: Friday, January 7, 2022 1:12 PM To: friam@redfish.com <friam@redfish.com> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] The Insurrection Index On 1/7/22 11:14 AM, glen wrote: > Thanks for that validation. I think SteveS' conception is rooted in > the US' typical puritanical approach to everything. I admit I'm > ignorant of the history of HR. But my sense is that non-US regions > have a richer cultural approach to handling drugs. Even China, which > we often ridicule as totalitarian, has lived with opium use for a much > longer time. > > Here in the US, the puritans will steal any and every thing and warp > it to their narrative, including HR. I think SteveS is a victim of > that narrative. I heard your conception as one of your own proverbial "Just So" stories, and recognize my own experience of *other's* conceptions (from whom I first encountered HR) as a complementary "Just So! Oh No!" story. Wishful/Wistful thinking vs negative Paranoiac thinking perhaps. I feel that my own apprehension is pretty muddled in the middle. I'm not busy worrying that drug users (legal or illegal, prescribed or self-medicating) will be harmed by that behaviour... It is mostly outside of my concern (except when I might be consulting with someone trying to distill their own spirits). Clearly there are lots of people who seek chemical alteration and seek a society that elaborately helps them explore that to the extreme whilst there is another (bimodal?) faction (prohibitionists/puritans) which seeks to quash all of that behaviour. I'm muddled in the middle, enjoying having friends who are much more experimental in those domains than I ever will be while also wincing at some of the self/other harm that seems to go with (at least the) illegal substances/activities as well as wincing at all the puritanical need to decide for others what their goals in life and risk envelopes while pursuing them should be. I am a mild victim of many narratives I suppose. - SteveS .-- .- -. - / .- -.-. - .. --- -. ..--.. / -.-. --- -. .--- ..- --. .- - . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn UTC-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ archives: 5/2017 thru present https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/
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