Right. Various rhizomic organizations like scientific groups are debating 
whether to stop collaborating with Russian scientists inside Russia. Just like 
with Aline in Wonderland, cutting off collaborations with them, punishes them 
more than it would ever punish Putin and his Oligarchs. But, especially with 
scientists and youngsters more concerned with fashion than politics, those 
people a) tend to turn a blind eye to politics if it suits them and b) the only 
ones that survive and thrive are those complicit in the regime. We're the same 
here in the states and probably in India and everywhere else. Just the other 
day, JOLT news published a Dear Abbey type response arguing that many of us 
simply don't need to care about what's happening in Ukraine:

https://thejoltnews.com/stories/some-perspective-on-the-war,5200?

Granted, worrying about things you can't control may seem futile. But those of 
us who don't worry enough about things they *could* influence are often more 
sickening than the evil that relies on their apathy ... like all those 
youngsters who won't vote in our next mid-term election, thereby allowing 
congress to fall back under the influence of, if not Trump, then McConnell.

If you're a Russian scientist and you want to collaborate with scientists 
outside Russia, then my advice is Leave Russia. In addition to sanctions, we 
should drastically increase recruitment for all the talent in Russia. Offer 
asylum for artists and LGBTQ and anyone else ... even Aline. Suck them dry. 
Well, OK, we can do without Gerard Depardieu and Steven Seagal ... and I'm 
still skeptical of Snowden. But what the hell, drop the charges and bring him 
back, too ... just don't give him a clearance. 8^D

On 3/3/22 12:13, Sarbajit Roy wrote:
She almost definitely doesn't represent "Russia"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpB721W1l34&t=1122s

On Thu, Mar 3, 2022 at 4:56 AM glen <geprope...@gmail.com> wrote:

This video brings home, to me, the inherent conflict with "do what it
takes to ...":

I'm Russian I want the rest of the world to hear me out
https://youtu.be/FUE40mkEYeo

Even though I'm worried she's a plant, she makes the valid point that
things like sanctions don't hurt the ultra wealthy.

--
glen
When elephants fight, it is the grass that suffers.


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