IDK, I wouldn't say the dialog was indistinguishable from a human. When I ask people
things like "Do you have feelings?", they respond pretty aggressively or
defensively. While I agree that all the sentences were well-formed and sensible (SSI),
they lacked the reflective quality of actual human responses. Plus, there wasn't any
humor as far as I could tell. You'd expect that in a conversation with such ridiculous
questions. That would be true even if, especially if, you were talking to a kid or a
typically blue collar sort. [⛧]
That's why it read, to me, like one of those fake dialogs intended to teach some lesson
or other. And it wasn't even Socratic. This is where Aaronson's comment ("but can I
run my own tests?") plays in. Meno or Euthyphro might *seem* indistinguishable from
a human ... but they're not, they're fantastically designed to render the just-so
condition the ideologue intends. Perhaps Lahontan's Kondiaronk was different?
[⛧] I once picked up a hitchhiker on my way home from work back in TX. Since the ride was
quite long, we discussed quite a bit. As we were driving through town, I commented that
most of the people looked, to me, like they were asleep ... metaphorically. The hitcher
said, "They look awake to me", literally.
On 6/13/22 13:40, Jochen Fromm wrote:
I think the capabilities of large language models are really impressive. The
language of these models is not grounded, as this article says, but in
principle it is possible to do it.
https://techmonitor.ai/technology/ai-and-automation/foundation-models-may-be-future-of-ai-theyre-also-deeply-flawed
Take for example a robot, connect it to the Internet and a large language
model, and add an additional OCR layer in between. The result? Probably creepy
and uncanny, but if it works we would most likely think such an actor would be
sentient. The replies in the LaMDA dialog transcript look indistinguishable
from a human.
https://cajundiscordian.medium.com/is-lamda-sentient-an-interview-ea64d916d917
-J.
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From: glen <geprope...@gmail.com>
Date: 6/13/22 17:14 (GMT+01:00)
To: friam@redfish.com
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Google Engineer Thinks AI Bot Has Become Sentient
"Remarkable" in the sense of "worthy of remark"? Yeah, maybe.
LaMDA: Language Models for Dialog Applications
https://arxiv.org/abs/2201.08239
Personally, I think we can attribute Lemoine's belief in LaMDA's sentience is
an artifact of his religious belief. It's not exclusive to Christianity,
though. One of the risks of the positions taken by those who believe in the
reality of things like Jungian archetypes is false attribution. And it's not
limited to anthropomorphic attribution. To the person with a hammer, everything
looks like a nail. Even if such beliefs have some objective utility in some
contexts, that utility is not likely to be that transitive to other contexts.
I suppose this is why I'm more sympathetic to the (obviously still false in its
extreme) behaviorist or skeptical position (cf
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/phpr.12445). I.e. it's
completely irrelevant whether or not you *claim* to have feelings and emotions.
What's needed for knowledge (justified true belief) is a parallax pointing to
the same conclusion, preferably including some largely objective angles.
An objective angle on LaMDA might well be available from IIT operating over
some (very large) log/trace data from the executing program. *That* plus the
bot claiming it's sentient would give me pause.
On 6/12/22 08:28, Jochen Fromm wrote:
> A Google engineer said he was placed on leave after claiming an AI chatbot
was sentient. The fact that he thinks it would be sentient is remarkable, isn't it?
>
https://www.businessinsider.com/google-engineer-thinks-artificial-intelligence-bot-has-become-sentient-2022-6
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