Is the Holtec facility viable for long term storage?

From: Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com> On Behalf Of Steve Smith
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2022 11:34 AM
To: friam@redfish.com
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: Holtec in NM .... sacrifice zone


Merle -

Despite 3 decades inside the belly of the LANL/DOE/NNSA beast and an apologist 
for MAD at least up until the fall of the Soviet Union I am no fan of Nuclear 
Power (much less Weapons).  Two of my close neighbors are veterans of the LANL 
nuclear-waste-disposal industry and *are* apologists/proponents for that whole 
business model, but transparently (to me) based on the way their bread was (and 
still is) buttered by all of that.   They are otherwise pretty good, positive, 
hopeful people (as we first worlders go) but have a blind spot the size of that 
buttered bread that means we have no substantially meaningful conversations in 
that area.

Holtec and the state/national politics of NIMB are yet another tragedy of our 
failed experiments of representative democracy, and manic hypercapitalism.  I 
do NOT hold utopian hypersocialist or hypercommunist fantasies, nor have any 
interest in promoting the myth of the "benign dictator" either, and am 
discouraged by how the tug-of-war between parties and the ideologies they 
espouse "tramples the grass" (to mis-quote Glen's inverted signature line).

Spending 2 months traveling/hanging in northern Europe, trying to suss out how 
different *that* manic hypercapitalist suite of representative 
democracies/societies function (nation by nation, subculture by subculture, and 
the EU Federation at-large) with the added parallax of Brexit and Russia's War 
on Ukraine and NATO/West's War on Russia's economy, I am at least mildly 
hopeless that we (the collective industrialized West/humanity-at-large) are on 
any path to resolution of the looming existential threats that are 
auto-generated by our short-sighted excesses.  At least not in the modes 
(primarily political) we are pursuing.

Anyone here read(ing) Feffer's 
Splinterlands<https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/28818724>?

Your organized (global existential threats) meeting in Stockholm in 2019 gave 
me some new insight and hope in this regard... recently my re-readings of 
Bateson... some posts here, and a deeper dive into Terrence Deacon have been a 
good distraction if not a hint of an exit ramp from the blunt hopelessness that 
too much staring at a problem can yield.

BTW, I did find the OP in your thread's use of Instagram disingenous in the way 
Glen often points out that we oldsters often completely miss the "appropriate 
use" of different technologies.  I'm sure her intentions were good, trying to 
expand the audience for the message or avoid various (self/other) censoring by 
platform/channel?  But I personally restrict my use of Instagram to 
"photoblogging" with text and especially politically oriented content extremely 
limited (e.g. I let BLM into my stream for a day).  Among those who fled FB 
because of it's rampant politicization, I find many who went to IG to have 
turned around and re-injected the same energy.  As (???  
Kempis/Berra/kabat-zinn/watts/??)  famously said, "no matter where you go, 
there you are"?



<deleted threadjack tangent reflecting on morphodynamics cum teleodynamics and 
the future of humanity/the-biosphere>

- Steve

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