3 is {0, {0}, {0, {0}}} according to one approach to a using sets to form numbers that satisfy the Peano axioms. In that approach 0 and the empty set are identical.
--- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Sat, Sep 17, 2022, 2:02 PM Gillian Densmore <gil.densm...@gmail.com> wrote: > I don't know nearly enough mind bending high levels abstract maths to have > more than tons of questions. I thought information (in the math sense) > 'just' meant 3 of something and you might know of what but the > absolute value of that 3 is the piece of info your starting with, and > keep from being mangled when working backwords to what that 3 is in the > real world . Or is this morein the spooky physics sense where if certain > metals are made super duper cold you can levitetate trains kind of quantum > mechanics?? > > On Fri, Sep 16, 2022 at 11:00 AM glen∉ℂ <geprope...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> 70-year-old quantum prediction comes true, as something is created from >> nothing >> https://bigthink.com/starts-with-a-bang/something-from-nothing/ >> >> It seems like this is another example where the arrogance of the >> abstraction reigns. Because the math relating holes and electrons is the >> same (?) as that relating electrons and positrons, does it mean studying >> one gives us insight into the other? Does the metaphysics really translate? >> >> Arrogant or not, it's super effing cool. >> >> -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . >> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >> Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom >> https://bit.ly/virtualfriam >> to (un)subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >> FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ >> archives: 5/2017 thru present >> https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ >> 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/ >> > -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom > https://bit.ly/virtualfriam > to (un)subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > archives: 5/2017 thru present > https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ > 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/ >
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